Span::new(days=5, hours=8, minutes=1) Span::new(days=5, hours=8, minutes=1)https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/pre-rfc-named-arguments/16...
It doesn't think about optional arguments (but somehow does include overloading). And a bit in a related fashion, it doesn't permit for reordering calling arguments, which I consider a downside:
> Reordering named arguments when calling
> No it is not possible. Just like unnamed arguments and generics, named arguments are also position-based and cannot be reordered when calling: register(name:surname:) cannot be called as register(surname:name:).
> Reordering them at the definition site is an API break, just like reordering unnamed arguments or generics is an API break already.
The rationale for this expressed in the comments says it's incompatible with overloading, but to me I don't see why named arguments and overloading should go hand-in-hand—or, indeed, how desirable overloading is in the first place. Or why should overloading be able to overload that kind of scenario. The other reasons for this don't seem really problems at all.
> fn func2(pub name: u32, name hidden: u32) { /\* ... */ }
> fn func3(name hidden1: u32, name hidden2: u32) { /* ... */ }
> func2 and func3 could work in theory: named arguments as proposed in this RFC are position-based and their internal names are different: just like two arguments can have the same type without ambiguity, those functions could be allowed.Maybe there are technical reasons that are simpler when considering type compatibility between function types that have or don't have labeled arguments? Seems the proposal has misunderstood something about OCaml labeled arguments when placing it under https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/pre-rfc-named-arguments/16... , though.
In addition the proposal doesn't seem to have a neat syntax for forwarding named parameters, like in constructing records you can just fill in a field called foo by mentioning its name by itself—or, like in OCaml you can have
let foo ~bar = bar + 1
let baz ~bar = foo ~bar
let main () = baz ~bar:42
If it used the .-prefix as mentioned as an idea elsewhere, then this too could be naturally expressed.Maybe there are other ideas how to go about the labeled arguments, though that one seems pretty well thought-out.
One thing I've enjoyed with Python (and Mypy) is the ability to require the caller to use named arguments with the asterisk marker in the parameter list. This idea is mentioned in the proposal.
However, many were opposing overloading the same pre-rfc was suggesting.
I also feel at this point it's basically a wontfix, but that's more because it's both controversial and huge, and arguably not as high of a priority as other things even if it weren't those two things. The reason it gets huge is that you really want to consider all three of {optional, named, variadric} at roughly the same time.
I do think that people are generally more supportive of variadric than optional/named.
Currently using vs code with C++, I like how it handles the missing language feature by adding a grayed out parameter name before the value for function calls and initializers. Maybe there is something like that for rust.
It would have to look something like:
f({ hours: 2, seconds: 53, ..Default::default() })
The defaults could come from some value / function with a name shorter than Default::default(), but it would be less clear.- leaving some mandatory fields
- reduce the need for the builder pattern
- enable the above to be written as f(S { hours: 2, seconds: 53, .. })
If that feature ever lands, coupled with structural/anonymous structs or struct literal inference, you're getting everything you'd want from named arguments without any of the foot guns.
It got postponed because it wasn't going to make it into Rust 2018: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/1806#issuecomment-327...
1: https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/pre-pre-rfc-syntactic-suga...
I didn't even think about the builder thing, but you're right there too.