Synthetic and generated data is also real and shouldn't be underestimated. LLM training can be very counterintuitive at times.
There was also a paper on persistent computer programs after running random data iteratively over millions of cycles. This doesn't even have a 'goal'. which by itself is very interesting because of how similar it feels to how organisms develop by the act of persisting after a few billion years.
That is to say I largely agree with the premise that you can train and improve alot by absense of data. But if your original dataset is garbage, then training over and over might get limited by a hidden nash equilibrium that the algoritm can't escape due to lack of new information.
Obligatory Anton petrov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_IWVZPmc-E Paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2406.19108