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i’ve been seeing this comment float around today, and assuming you aren’t a russian troll or bot account, here’s why it’s flawed:

there’s no _coup_ (not coop) because primary processes are not part of the constitution. candidates can step down (as biden did for the good of the country, and LBJ had done before him). there was no real choice to not pick biden, either, as the incumbent.

the party will now have an open nomination process where delegates will pledge based on how people of their state best want, and keep in mind that most americans did not want biden OR trump, so they really are doing what is best in the interest of american democracy

compare this to the RNC and GOP which has done nothing but embrace one criminal authoritarian crook for the last decade, and you’ll see why your comment doesn’t really make sense.

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Agreed.

Hasn't the number one thing anti-biden people have been saying is that he isn't fit for office due to his mental state?

Its bizarre seeing them flip to calling this a coup as if biden stepping down is suddenly an illegal/unconstitutional thing.

I consider this "concern trolling".

They said for 4 years how he's barely mentally there / can barely speak / not fit for office, and then when the Democratic party pressures him to step down, they go all surprised_pikachu_face.png.

Are the same people saying both things? “Anti Biden” people are a wide swath of Americans and not required to agree with one another on any specific point.

Fair point, meant to specify "anti biden, pro trump".

I didn't think he was fit for office either (first point), but I'm glad he's being replaced.

> keep in mind that most americans did not want biden OR trump

I think the point is that at least people voted to make Biden their candidate.

Now those votes mean nothing and someone else will pick their candidate for them instead.

Not true. Inherently when you voted for Biden in the primary, you explicitly also voted for Harris.

She got 14 million votes too.

In many states (California being one) you don’t vote for a vice president on the primary ballot. I did notice that in Illinois, you do.

Biden beat her in the primary. If the people wanted her to be president she would have won then.

The VP pick is pure politics at it's worst. Just look at McCain / Palin.

Your response sounds like it was written by KJP. But seriously, here's why your reply is flawed according to Politico.

>“Nancy made clear that they could do this the easy way or the hard way,” said one Democrat familiar with private conversations who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “She gave them three weeks of the easy way. It was about to be the hard way.” [1]

This was not Joe Biden's decision to drop out. He was forced out by the people that pull the strings in the democrat party.

[1]https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/21/why-biden-dropped-o...

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