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Glisp: Graphical Lisp

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Great project. I am mostly impressed that Glisp provides a great experience of reversely modifying code by dragging the ui.

Personally, I really agree with the philosophy of code for design. I often feel that code is more useful than gui in many cases. I developed Glicol (https://glicol.org) for live composition and sound design so that I don't need to open DAW for music improvisation. In addition, I have always thought that there should be a better way to make slides. I have tried revealjs and now use remark, but I hope there will be a simpler way to achieve programmatic specification like keynote magic move.

Btw, I am also very curious about the philosophical comparison between Glisp and the LOGO language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_(programming_language)

this looks alot more like an SVG in s-expressions

wow, <3 your livecoding language!

forget to mention, the new logo of glicol is also designed with js code:

https://github.com/glicol/glicol-logo/blob/main/index.html

perhaps it can be even cleaner with lisp

I think there is room for textual code and visual code to co-exist.

I've also been working on a project recently that works as a bidirectional binding between textual shell pipelines and GUI representations of those commands, allowing for text and settings from either the text or the GUI to update one another. It also features output after each command to aid in debugging and with various formats depending on the output type, eg JSON vs CSV.

I'd love any and all feedback!

https://github.com/williamcotton/guish

More info here, mostly in Japanese with auto-translate option:

https://scrapbox.io/glisp/

What is Glisp? https://scrapbox.io/glisp/Glisp%E3%81%A8%E3%81%AF%3F

I tried to put both of these through Google Translate, both in-page (via the Chrome extension and "Translate this page") and by posting the URLs into `translate.google.com`.

Neither worked.

If anyone has links to working methods, I'd love to see them.

I love to see this kind of design environment where the written language is alongside interactive elements but also accessible. It creates the basis for intuitive and self-directed discovery of the code's meaning and capabilities.

These screenshots do a good job of showing more of what's possible[0]

[0] -https://scrapbox.io/glisp/%E3%82%BF%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A0%E3%83%...

The timeline feature looks great. As another person mentioned, it reminds me of Bret Victor's demos.

Here's another feature, user-defined shapes, with nice screen captures to demonstrate the possibilities.

https://scrapbox.io/glisp/%E3%83%A6%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B6%E3%83%...

Reminds me of: https://docs.racket-lang.org/quick/index.html

I built something somewhat similar where I manipulate pandas dataframes through a gui [1]. The gui emits json-flavored lisp [2] (replaced parens with json square braces) which is then interpreted through two interpreters which have the same functions loaded in. One interpreter modifies the dataframe, the other emits python code that performs the exact same manipulation, so you can copy and paste the python code. The user never sees JLisp, but it is there under the covers.

This works hand in hand with autocleaning that looks at a dataframe and suggests jlisp cleaning commands.

[1] https://youtu.be/GPl6_9n31NE?si=JJPtk6K6FNX0sboi&t=603 [2] jlisp.py, based on Peter Norvig's lispy with a reader modified to accept JSON

The project's GitHub page has a few more details about GLisp:

https://github.com/baku89/glisp

Should this work in Microsoft Edge?

Could it possibly be extended to have support for METAFONT style pens?

Very similar to https://100r.co/site/ronin.html

Has anybody used both in anger?

If not already taken, GRAphical liSP (grasp) would also have been a fun name!

It's been already taken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Animation_System_for_...

Glisp is impressive stuff though: similar to the programs shown in Bret Victor's Inventing on Principle talk.

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