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Do you own anything of value? What about your family?

Now let's try practicing some empathy: How would you feel if I just took that from you?

Oh, I get it. It’s just not gonna get them anything. That ship sailed decades ago. On a policy level, all this is doing is causing harm.

In this scenario, should everyone born in the same city as you be punished for your crimes?

This is foundational to American legal system in many cases. If your local cops for instance unjustly beat say Cubans and get sued for it the inhabitants will pay and possibly even their children through debt.

Well, that's how it should work. Qualified immunity massively complicates this in favor of the cop and therefore the city employing said cop and the residents of the city. It is technically not impossible to win such a case if you get a court to take it, but you might be facing some insurmountable odds getting a court to take the case.

Depends; were I or my family aligned or complicit with a military dictatorship?

Ah. So uk should sanction the whole USA, on account of that revolution that costed some people something?

They did and it took a war and a long time for relations to be reestablished

Not true. After the Treaty of Paris (1783) was signed, trade between the US and UK resumed almost immediately; and diplomatic relations were reestablished in 1785. Shortly after the war (1793), when France and Britain went to war, rather than back up the French, the US signed the Jay Treaty to maintain trade and positive relations with the UK... angering France who helped us gain independence.

Other than the revolutionary war from 1776 to 1785, the other break we had was from 1812-1815 during the War of 1812.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom%E2%80%93United_...

Ah ok so other than the war and the tarrifs and the blockade it isnt true

the point is it took less than a decade and half...

thanks for letting us know you never read a book and take lessons from the tv.

Sorry, but I don’t think families who escaped in those times were exactly just innocent property owners.

Sorry, but that does not matter. If they did anything illegal, they should be prosecuted by and in the country it happened, but you are presuming collective guilt here. That is always, universally, the wrong thing to do.

We are talking about the descendants of the wealthy or dissident people who were escaping the Cuban revolution, where Cuba at the time was largely owned by foreign sugar plantations which was perpetuated by the the brutal military dictatorship of Batista, which was supported by the US government as well as organized crime (and where one ends and the other begins is sometimes unclear…)

It’s a tale as old as time!

The legacy of colonialism still casts a dark shadow. You can replace who rules much easier than changing how they rule. Batista a dictator replaced by Castro another dictator.

Yes and collective guilt is still wrong. Being a descendant is not a punishable deed, nor should it be. Also many professionals had to leave too.

It was a better lie when "the people we robbed and killed totally deserved it" was about Kulaks. Seriously it is the same victim blaming bullshit to absolve a government of thieves.

Many were. My grandfather was just a doctor that owned a townhouse. My mom had her toy bear's head ripped off by customs as she was leaving to check she wasn't smuggling gold out of the country. My grandfather was completely uninvolved in the war, like the vast majority of Cubans. Castro promised everyone that Cuba would become a democracy. Stopped buying the leftist propaganda you've been fed. You have 10% of a country fleeing in 3 years and you people still can't admit you were wrong, it's worse than a cult.

The bright side is, despite the suffering involved, moving to America is the greatest thing that could have happened to my family.

I guess that the million people who have escaped in the last couple of years are also guilty of something.

Yeah, we killed the mosquitoes that don't let us sleep and gave us Dengue every month because the gov can't provide electricity and if you protest you dissapear to jail

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