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Long ago, I was told that it was only worth paying for College if you were going to be an Professional Engineer or a Nurse. It seems that advice has held true.

I've never pushed my child towards College.

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And a real engineer. Not just some basic things where you can just get a certification.

Like I tell people, I don’t think you need 4 years to learn basic things like html, css and some JavaScript.

The HN crowd seems to be quite willing to hand out the title "Engineer" to programmers, and quite touchy about it as well.

I meant Professional STATE LICENSED Engineer.

Anyone can be a programmer (aka "engineer"), and some are even good at it. ;-)

Fun fact from Poland: Here a real "Professional State Licensed Engineer" degree (anything outside IT) is absolutely NOT worth it because the market for most jobs is local. Only Software "Enginneering" (with or without degree, doesn't matter) is.

I do have a masters degree in computer science (software engineering specialization) and since I'm working as a contractor from the start nobody ever saw it or wanted to see it.

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