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J.D. Vance is anti-Big Tech, pro-crypto

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Considering he was a never-trumper and called trump hitler... i'm pretty sure hes just saying and doing whatever shit will get niche groups to vote for him.

Not to mention he's funded by Peter Thiel. Whatever else I think about him, I certainly wouldn't call him anti big-tech and I'm sure he'll hold the purse strings tightly.

I’m probably anti-big tech but what will pro crypto bring us? Convince me that the deregulation of the Trump/Vance administration won’t bring about the next 2008

Done right it could eliminate the ability of the government to freeze my bank account if I’m protesting, for example, like Trudeau did in Canada not long ago.

We’ll see what happens, I don’t think there’s enough unity among Republicans for a coherent libertarian agenda to actually get enacted, more likely a Christo-fascist one, but I lean more libertarian as I get older, so despite my extreme skepticism if it happens beyond my control, I’ll be damn curious to see it.

Is Christo-fascism simply enacting any legislation that comes from a Christian moral lens? It overwhelmingly seems like a buzzword used to fearmonger that has only recently been added via OTA updates to certain groups.

>Is Christo-fascism simply enacting any legislation that comes from a Christian moral lens?

No.

> It overwhelmingly seems like a buzzword used to fearmonger that has only recently been added via OTA updates to certain groups.

Neither the term nor the concept are recent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fascism

I dunno? Matt Walsh is an open ChristoFascist and Even Joe Rogan mentioned that he was worried about it harkening back to the George Bush days, part of my point was less that I though an extreme thing would happen and more that of the extreme things that could happen, Christian extremism seems more popular then libertarian extremism.

But also maybe the answer to your question is yes? Separation of church and state and all that silly nonsense.

Also OTA updates? Is this like some weird “I’m a free thinker and everyone else is an NPC thing?”

> Also OTA updates? Is this like some weird “I’m a free thinker and everyone else is an NPC thing?”

How else does a whole mass of people uncritically accept the same viewpoint with identical talking points that big media and big tech push out on the same day?

Do you really think there was any difference before mass media?

American are sounding an awful lot like Russians in exile 50 years ago...

I wish you all the best. And us too.

Nonsensical non sequitur

I don’t know, I don’t know what other people think, I do know what I think, and I don’t think I would describe it as uncritical. What makes you assume it’s uncritical?

OTA updates was a bit of snideness on my part, I will admit. It seems these days the more online elements of the political sides get new vocabulary to use every few months. Right wingers tend to focus on in group signaling through esoteric memes (based, peaty, keyed, "the breakfast question") while left wingers generally focus on new ways to ingroup signal through painting their enemies negatively, christo-fascist being the latest example.

That phrase probably dates back to 2004 or so, the same time "Islamofascist" was coined.

Yes, I’ve heard the term Christo-fascist thrown around recently, as I said most recently from Joe Rogan, I probably wouldn’t use the term had I not heard it thrown about recently but the point isn’t really the term. There is definitely a contingent of the Republican party who fits that description and that contingent definitely has power, are they the dominant power? I guess that we’ll just have to wait and see.

Do you expect a Maga style government to let you protest more freely?

A MAGA style government will let MAGA protest more freely for sure.

As someone who typically is conservative leaning libertarian on most issues, I also appreciate Lina Kahn in the Biden administration. Corporate power is derived from govt power and both should generally be reigned in. I also feel that essential services should not be able to discriminate based on activity that is legal.

What is "essential" is open for debate, but I would say that transportation and communications are pretty high on the list.

Not sure I'm pro crypto(currency) if only because I think stability is a massive issue.

How is corporate power derived from government power? Corprations usually exercise all the power they can until govt reins them in.

I'm expressly not opposed to trust busting, or anti-monopoly moves from the govt. I feel it's a fair trade for limitations on liability to company investors. Limitations on liability are a grant to corporations from govt. Certain resource constraints are limited/licensed by the govt (especially communications).

Beyond this, I feel that a primary lesson from COVID should be an emphasis on dual/multi sourcing and domestic production at least from a security standpoint. There are some levers that can be used by govt to promote this.

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