Ties between Google's Project Nimbus and Israel's military
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Well then it's not really hidden is it then?
Google has deep ties with the Tel Aviv start up world. Their plan currently is to buy Cybersecurity company Wiz for 26b.
The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.
doesn't make any sense. I did justify them and told you where.
Lots of them are immigrants who understandably don't want to be associated with US-endorsed genocide.
So their political preferences aren't really material.
And of course, you have no data to back up your statements.
No, mostly Muslims see the use of your own people as human shields as very distasteful, and are more likely to blame Hamas for high Palestinian casualties than the IDF. In fact, bringing up IDF's supposed atrocities without also addressing Hamas's willingness to "fight to the last Gazan" seems very disingenuous.
What did Gazans think would happen after October 7th? And the response seems to have been "We must support Hamas even more", I don't know, eventually they need to address that, or they are going to lose the support and sympathy of everyone outside of the Muslim world.
Also, as a minor side-note, you manage to contradict yourself even in this short reply, first claiming that muslims by and large don't support Gaza, but then concluding by claiming that somehow the Gazans being bombed in their homes are behaving so egregiously that they'll soon lose the support of everyone "outside of the Muslim world". I'm not surprised you can't keep your argument straight, as its logic is incoherent in the first place, barely making sense even in this ridiculous framing of the conflict
'... and the problem is: The US is supporting Israel and supplying it with weapons. Neither Presidential candidate has any intention of changing that, nor is there majority Congressional support for changing it.'
The american people are mostly against israel and sending billions to israel. And yet nearly all of congress, presidential candidates, etc are in favor of it. Something is awry with representative government when nearly 100% of the politicians are not representative of the american people.
I'm afraid you're going to need some support for that statement.
https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-i...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/americans-views-divided-us-p...
Your friends and people you interact with may be mostly against. It’s not clear that Americans generally are.
Pew [1] has a pretty much even split on military support for Israel, with 36% favoring it, 35% against it, and 29% either on the fence or unsure. Only 22% in the same poll say that Biden is favoring Israel too much.
[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-i...
> Pew [1] has a pretty much even split on military support for Israel
That's embarrassing given the decades long pro-israel propaganda campaign and the nearly 100% political backing.
But me and my 'remarkably absurd logic'. Using my 'remarkably absurd logic', I'm guessing this thread is flagged because the 'antisemites' who run this site don't want to see the outpouring of love of israel. Every israel related thread must be flagged because of the impending pro-israel comments from americans. Right?
Every social media platform censors because they don't want americans to drown israelis with love. It all makes sense now.
“In God we trust, all others bring data.” —Deming (maybe)
Our side? What side is that? Israel's side?
> on your side you have a bunch of snide remarks and mental gymnastics.
If that was the case, you and your buddy/alt account wouldn't be so frantically responding to me.
> “In God we trust, all others bring data.” —Deming (maybe)
You have to do a poll to see if your parents love you too? If america's support of israel is so apparent, you wouldn't need polls. You certainly wouldn't need to censor so heavily.
This is getting stupid. This is the problem with israel. I don't give a shit about it. America ( at least 99% of it ) has nothing to do with it. And yet, it is wasting so much of my time and america's time. I hope within my lifetime we won't have to waste so much time and resources on a foreign nonsense. Whether that be israel, taiwan, cuba, etc. More importantly, I hope one day americans can express ourselves freely as is our right.
The side of people who recognize that the following statement is false:
> The american people are mostly against israel and sending billions to israel.
> If that was the case, you and your buddy/alt account wouldn't be so frantically responding to me.
This is funny because you're responding as fast as both of us put together but somehow we're the "frantic" ones.
The rest is more of the same snide remarks and mental gymnastics so I won't bother responding to it.
"Censor" - I guess that's your term for "disagree." AFAICT you're free to say whatever you like about Israel. Like you're doing right now.
No one has to pay attention to you, though. Maybe that's your idea of censorship.
that reminds me of the "mostly peaceful protests" in Portland.
Face it: not everyone agrees with you. That's our right.
The protestors themselves mostly did property crimes though. The "broken windows" crowd and the far right media tried to make this out to be "violence", but even the police-reported violent crime statistics don't really support that view
Source ? Also the issue of monetary aid is different than general support. I assume many Americans don't want to send billions to Europe/Nato either yet they still support Europe.
Conservatives are becoming more isolationist, and would just prefer Arabs and the Middle East descend into a huge war without American involvement. Some liberals take Palestinian sides, but most Americans are actually fairly negative on it right now, with the belief that Hamas is intentionally using its own people as human shields. Politically speaking, there is more sympathy by Americans for Israel than Gaza, but there is a lot of cynicism since it seems like real solutions are not going to happen in our lifetime.
Personally, I'm against it. It's hard to cosign letting the Taliban redo gender apartheid in Afghanistan and banning education for girls and all the rest. But, if Americans are determined to live in a "nuclear-armed Switzerland", interventionism won't work anyway since it needs political will to succeed (see Afghanistan)... sooo I guess I'm an begrudging isolationist too now.
I suspect I would feel completely different about this if the Israeli military weren’t currently in a conflict indiscriminately killing dozens or hundreds of civilians as collateral damage in pursuit of single targets, or if they weren’t intentionally and illegally taking land from people in an area that isn’t a conflict zone at all.