It has all the downsides of visual programming that the author mentions. The visual aspect of it makes it so hard to understand the flow of control. There is no clear left to right or top to bottom way of chronologically reading a program.
It has all the downsides of visual programming that the author mentions. The visual aspect of it makes it so hard to understand the flow of control. There is no clear left to right or top to bottom way of chronologically reading a program.
LabView’s shining examples would be trivial Python scripts (aside from the GUI tweaking). However, it’s runtime interactive 2D graph/plot widgets are unequaled.
As soon as a “function” becomes slightly non trivial, the graphical nature makes it hard to follow.
Structured data with the “weak typedef” is a minefield.
A simple program to solve a quadratic equation becomes an absolute mess when laid out graphically. Textually, it would be a simple 5-6 line function that is easy to read.
Source control is also a mess. How does one “diff” a LabView program?
I don't know if they ever really delivered anything or not. That system is such an abomination it drove me nuts dealing with it, and dealing with scientists who honestly believed it was the future of software engineering and all the rest of us were idiots for using C++.
The VIs are really nice, when you're connecting them up to a piece of measurement hardware to collect data the system makes sense for that. Anything further and it's utter garbage.
Take a look at FME, another visual 'programming language'. They've done a lot of work with their git integration, including diffing and handling merge conflicts.
https://docs.safe.com/fme/html/FME-Form-Documentation/FME-Fo...
Airflow it almost universally famous for being a confusing, hard to grasp framework. But nobody can actually point to anything better. But yeah, it's incomparably better than LabView, it's not even on the same race.
With LabVIEW, I'm not sure you can. But in general, there are two ways: either by doing a comparison of the underlying graphs of each function, or working on the stored textual representations of the topologically sorted graphs and comparing those. On a wider view, in general, as different versions of any code are nodes in a graph, a visual versioning system makes sense.
LabVIEW has a built-in differ.
Also it is actually visually decent unlike LabVIEW which looks like it was drawn by someone who discovered MS Paint EGA edition.
LabView was significantly more sui generis and originated on Macintosh about a decade earlier. I don't hate it but it really predates a lot of more recent user experience conventions.
I think a happy medium would be an environment where you could easily switch between "code" and "visual" view, and maybe even make changes within each, but I suspect developers will stick with "code" view most of the time.
Also, from the article: > Developers say they want "visual programming"
I certainly don't. What I do want is an IDE which has a better view into my entire project, including all the files, images, DB, etc., so it can make much better informed suggestions. Kind of like JetBrains on steroids, but with better built-in error checking and autocomplete suggestions. I want the ability to move a chunk of code somewhere else, and have the IDE warn me (or even fix the problem) when the code I move now references out-of-scope variables. In short, I want the IDE to handle most of the grunt work, so I can concentrate on the bigger picture.
Numeric values in ladder feels a bit kludgey
Ladder, SFC and FBD are all graphical languages used to program PLC's. Ladder is directly based on electrical ladder schematics and common in the USA. The idea was electricians and plant technicians who understood ladder schematics could now program and troubleshoot industrial computers. SFC and FBD were more common in Europe but nowadays you mostly see Structured Text, a Pascal dialect (usually with bolted on vendor OOP lunacy.)
I will admit that for some programs, Ladder is fantastic. Of course ladder can be turned into horrid spaghetti if the programmer doesn't split up the logic properly
In mathematics, everything exists at once just like real life.
In most programming languages, things happen in explicit discrete steps which makes things a lot easier, and most node based systems don't have that property.
I greatly prefer block based programming where you're dragging rules and command blocks that work like traditional programming, but with higher level functions, ease of use on mobile, and no need to memorize all the API call names just for a one off tasks.
It is a total abomination.
It's also fairly good for making money: the oil and gass industry seems to like using it (note: n = 1, I only did one oil n gas project with it).
Also, since you;ve done only one project with it, how hard was it to pick it up and learn?
Labview does have diff and merge tools. It feels kind of clunky in practice, kind of like diffing/merging MS Office files. In my experience people think of versions of LabView code as immutable snapshots along a linear timeline and don't really expect to have merge commits. Code versions may as well be stored as separate folders with revision numbers. The mindset is more hardware-centric; e.g., when rewiring a physical data acquisition system, reverting a change just means doing the work over again differently. So LabView's deficiencies in version control don't stand out as much as they would in pure software development.
https://www.ni.com/docs/en-US/bundle/labview/page/comparing-...
If you know other languages I would say it's very easy to pick up. Probably the easiest out of any language out there. Instead of heaving to guess/learn the syntax, you just pick functionality from icons/lists and drag and drop.