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It's interesting that they avoid saying shot, while describing the consequences of being shot near the ear. Are they thinking he might've scratched the ear when his security jumped on him?

It might just be a bias from me, but it feels like a double standard that the media that are known for irresponsibly rushing stories out and issuing retractions after the fact might be trying to wait and see for the facts to come out this time.

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It’s the sort of thing you really want to verify first. We know he was bleeding. That was all. But yes, there was the possibility he could have cut himself when the Secret Service grabbed him. Or he very well could have been grazed, which seems more likely by now. We’ll learn more as the chaos subsides and news organizations get more verified information.

I’ll note that the current WSJ story doesn’t state he was shot, just that he stood up with blood on his ear. Hell, even Fox News isn’t claiming he was shot when I wrote this comment. They’re all handling the chaos and lack of information the same way: report what little you know, point out that it’s a breaking news story, and that there’s a great deal of uncertainty. They know he was bleeding from photos and video.

Political violence is horrific and unacceptable, and assassinations are even worse. News organizations are, so far, seemingly handling this dark moment well and will hopefully avoid making it worse for Americans.

> Or he very well could have been grazed

That would still qualify as “being shot” to use the technical term. You can hear the secret service talking about the shots being fired on the literal hot mic on a YouTube stream minutes after you can clearly hear a discharging firearm. And then Trump released a statement saying he was shot.

Despite this it still took several hours for some prominent media outlets to report what happened.

Let's call a spade a spade. It's an assassination.

*attempt

Same difference.

I'd say there's a pretty important difference!

An assassination is successful. An attempt is when it fails.

lawyer: "don't worry, it's only attempted murder. I'm sure the jury will see things your way."

Anyone watching the video of the shooting can see it for themselves: Trump is talking, suddenly puts his right hand to his right ear, apparently hears and feels something very unusual, and gets down rapidly, to be covered by his secret service detail just a couple seconds later. By then he's already bleeding as seen in another photo taken of his head, on the ground under all those agents. I may be wrong but it seems plainly obvious that the bullet really did graze his ear, considering that 1. he was being shot at, 2. that and other bullets went into the spectators behind him and 3. he was bleeding from the ear just a second or two after multiple bullets were fired in his direction.

People claiming he was cut by his secret service detail or by glass (from where the fuck?) are spinning an odd little story despite excellent visual evidence to the contrary. Possibly to play down how close he came to being shot dead right there and then.

I am not saying in anyway that foul play has happend, but why is there no blood on Donald Trump hand after he has touched his ear? On the TV picture you can clearly see his hand the moment after he touched his ear and there is not visbible blood on it.

Watch the video. Unless you think he actually squeezed a fake blood bag or ketchup pack against his ear for some unfathomably bad reason, it's very real. You're sort of beating a dead horse here. Multiple reports, photos, video etc have confirmed that he did indeed get shot and that the injury to his ear was the result of that incredibly (for him) lucky near miss grazing his ear.

Either all the visual evidence (including live video and photos by seasoned, respected third party photojournalists) was somehow amazingly falsified, or Trump literally used fake blood to make it seem like he got injured by the bullet (an incredible assertion even by Trump standards) or he really was shot just as has now been widely reported.

Also, that he would grab that specific ear just as the shot went by, and moments later suffer an injury completely unrelated to a bullet in that exact ear, would be an extraordinary coincidence. Caused by what else?

They're now saying that it's likely a glass related injury, so not jumping to conclusions was the right thing to do.

NYT pictures show the bullet going behind his head, he puts his hand up to his ear and it comes away covered with blood. Probably the bullet.

Which only confirms how hard they tried to spin this as a minor incident in the early hours.

They said it was a bullet 20 mins after it happened, no idea what you're on about

I only found out 1-2 hours after it happened and there was still confusion regarding how and if Trump was hurt or not. Maybe some outlet was quick with their conclusions but I read the glass story or that he hurt his ear falling after a loud noise and several others.

Happy to hear that you have better sources than I do, that doesn't make my claims false though.

After the popping noises and before anyone jumped to protect him, Trump raised a hand and put it on the ear that is the site of most of the blood that we can see in this photo:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/07/13/donald-trump-...

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