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Why would it not be? What data is it illegal to view? Other than perhaps CSAM, which I would strongly hope Disney don't host on their Slack.

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Viewing the data necessary copies it. The data is of course, all Disney IP in the sense that all employee output is the employers intellectual property. Copying Disney IP hasn't historically worked out for folks.

I never liked that interpretation of copyright much. Clearly the person publishing the data ought to be the one liable, if someone obtains the data they should be allowed to do whatever they want with it in private.

I think at least some legal systems agree with my interpretation, but the U.S. is insane.

It's not publishright, it's copyright.

The broad contours of modern copyright were formulated at a time when only for-profit enterprises (and perhaps sufficiently well-funded religious groups, but I repeat myself) could actually afford to copy things at scale. It may as well have been called "publishright".

Well over here the most literal translation is 'author's rights', so arguing it ought to be about copying just because that's in the name doesn't carry much weight in my view. If anything it's a great example of how framing can manipulate people's views.

I did mention that I considered the U.S. interpretation insane, didn't I?

> The data is of course, all Disney IP in the sense that all employee output is the employers intellectual property.

IANAL, but I think this description is overbroad. There is a "work for hire" doctrine in copyright law that assigns copyright to the employer, but I believe by default that only applies to works of authorship within the scope of an employee/contractor's assigned duties, with any broader scope needing to be explicitly assigned by contract. I would expect internal communications in general to be covered by an NDA or some concept of privacy rights, depending on the context.

I don’t know why it would be illegal, but it feels skeevy. Besides, Disney has a a good legal team — I wouldn’t be surprised if they could find a reason.

I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume that good lawyers would advise their clients against suing random people on the internet.

There are a shortage of good lawyers

Disney doesn’t care about you looking at this data dump.

You just gave an example. There are loads of classified information out there. Though Disney will probably not be able to sue you for just reading the data necessarily, doing so is a big liability if you're a competitor or work for a competitor.

every piece of writing, every sketch and illustration, and a lot of discussions about the process or development of shows/films/books/games/etc are copyrighted and under NDA.

Have you ever worked in entertainment?

I have not worked at entertainment, so maybe that's the reason why I don't understand how an NDA could affect my ability to read something someone else wrote.

lol. Typical of someone that “works in entertainment” to incorrectly condescendingly explain something that everyone else already knows about and deals with at their jobs.

The NDA is with the employees, not everyone else.

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