Ask HN: Developers using Java without Spring, and what is the alternative?

Despite of the question being very unspecific I can’t tell you many details about alternatives. But: I think the biggest ones are Quarkus, Micronaut and Vertx. While Vertx defined itself more as a toolkit.

I never had the chance to try some of these for Production systems or for a proof of concept. This would be really interesting, but I think many companies lean towards Spring, because it is matured, has a big ecosystem and community and stays for so long. And all of this although Spring has a bigger footprint.

CDI, love it! Much faster, much lower footprint, much easier to understand, and it doesn't bring in the kitchen sink. Also, it's standards based!

OpenWebBeans and Weld are the two implementations. OpenWebBeans starts and runs 10x significantly faster, but doesn't see the same amount of commits that Weld does.

hello,

... you mean for server-side web-development!?

idk, but the list on wikipedia:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_server-side_web_...

could be a starting point :)

[and then there is a "whole universe" of other usages beside web-related development possible for/with java ... from desktop to mobile etc.etc. ;]

just my 0.02€