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Meanwhile instead of some fancy building, their embassy over here is... Well, a little more domestic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_North_Korea,_London

The impression I got, from attending a school with a lot of diplomat kids, is that a lot of countries have embassies as a sort of foreign holiday for their ruling classes. Now NK being a bit antagonistic and paranoid might be an exception, but I distinctly got the impression that there were a lot of countries that didn't really do a lot of diplomatic work with the host countries, but the embassy meant they could send some families to go live in the west and have their school paid for by the state.

Those kinds of embassies don't need to be in the fancy embassy district.

Also most of the work is done by the CIA and NSA.

The NSA stays at home. There are some diplomatic normal folks to do the consularic work (visa, lost passports), the rest is secret service (recruiting agents, influencing the press, police, "diplomatic" ie secret communication, contacts to other embassies and the host).

And if it's a cross border offensive it's more likely to be Air Force Space Command (since, you know, cyberspace is right above regular space which is just a little higher than airspace :p)

(its just that electronic warfare is a natural extension of long range, lets call it, interference)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Space_Operation...

The embassies are not my ballgame but I get the impression they are not there because a lot of diplomacy needs to be done all the time - but to already exist when the need for diplomacy arises.

Open channels of communication and all that.

An alternate explanation to your point is that countries would like to have the appearance of being as shadowy and influential as what the CIA has going on. I'll quote (AFKA) mos def [0] and also link to the 99% invisible episode in number stations [1]. Some countries broadcast codes nonstop A in case they ever need to, no one can tell they just started and B to have the appearance they have covert agents behind enemy lines, just to be spooky.

  Mentioned that he worked for the embassy
  People seem to find that interesting
  High status, intrigue and mystery
  Special code name on the hotel registry
  I love it when they say
  "Enjoy your stay"
  They say it how they mean it
  'Cause that's the way they been trained
  Show you to your room
  A suite with a view
  When, if anything at all
  Do not hesitate to call
  ...
  Salutations, congratulations
  Reservations, exclusive arrangements
  Dinner with the patrons, the scenery is amazing
  It's so outrageous, they whisper when they say it
  When it's really real it's even realer than "The Matrix"
  Classic, modern, ancient, flagrant
  Get a special thrill every time they get to say it
  Peace! I work with the embassy
  On behalf of imagination industry
  I come visit, you come visit
  Such a pleasure, official business
  La, la, la, la...
  (Boogey, boogey, man, man)

[0] https://genius.com/Yasiin-bey-the-embassy-lyrics

[1] https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/numbers-stations/

The social and cultural dynamics you mention are indeed present in some cases.

I went in once. They had an open-day demonstrating the skills of north Korean artists. The artwork was decent, and the experience a good one overall.

Every room had a picture of Kim, obviously.

Every public room in my state's DMVs has a picture of the governor, so that last bit may not mean as much as you think it does.

That just means that US and North Korea are weird in the same way.

What state do you live in? I can't imagine that happening here in Washington state, even if our DMVs are all one big room.

Amazing! Still a bloody expensive property, even 20 years ago.

Is that a flagpole in the front garden?

£1.3m. You’d struggle to get a 3 bed semi for that nowadays.

Amen. That's a studio flat. And by studio flat, I mean a room in an attic with no windows.

Just outside the embassy is another pole, but with lots of cameras and radio gear looking into the embassy.

Clearly the days of spycraft aren't over.

Kind of reminds me of some of the embassies of smaller countries in Ottawa when I lived there.

There are quite a few in houses like this along Somerset Street if I'm remembering correctly.

It's also normal for embassies of big countries in smaller countries.

In Dublin there are a few big embassy compounds (US, Russia, UK, Germany are the only ones I can think of). Everyone else, even big dogs like China and India, has a converted house or a floor in an office block. Lots of pictures on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in...

It's like the mom and pop shop around the corner.

Except it's a house of horrors.

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