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Ethernet was added to the HDMI standard since version 1.4 and most cables today support that. If your TV is connected to an already networked box via a HDMI cable, chances are that it won't need a WiFi connection to go online.

Also, it could connect to an open WiFi without telling the user since it wouldn't need any input to enter credentials. It is becoming a lot harder to remain offline, at least with TVs.

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> If your TV is connected to an already networked box via a HDMI cable, chances are that it won't need a WiFi connection to go online.

I’m skeptical of this. Why would my Apple TV cheerfully proxy my TV’s request to send packets to the Internet?

Why wouldn't it? Apple has a whole network of devices that relay data from other devices. Its not like you can even check the software running on their products.

Because it's an extra expense to support it with basically no value. The reason to give a TV a network connection would be to use the applications built into the TV... ones that you don't need if you're using an Apple TV.

And hell, I can't even find any evidence that there's TVs that support HEC.

The value comes from the value of selling ads and knowing everything about the product. In this case the viewer. Value prop for building the ability to still have insight into your product is there. It captures all the people who think they are clever by not connecting through WiFi and not understanding that it can be done over HDMI.

There's no value _to Apple_ (in this scenario) to building ethernet-over-HDMI to let your TV sell you ads, because Apple isn't seeing a cent of that.

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