The Race to Seal Helium HDDs (2021)
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It's an immediate "return the drive" scenario, as something happened between factory and the SMART test and the drive is no longer within spec.
Thankfully an easy returns and replacement process, but an eye opener too, I hadn't heard of SMART 22 prior to this.
On Linux these can executed with "smartctl", which can also be used to read the error logs after the tests finish. The long test can take almost a day on big HDDs, while the other tests take only a few minutes.
After I had some problems with a bad HDD, I have begun to always execute all the SMART tests whenever I buy a HDD. Of course, if any test fails, the HDD must be returned immediately and the vendor cannot refuse to replace it when the request is backed by the failed SMART acceptance tests.
This is a good habit, because even if such events are very rare, I have still encountered a few HDDs that have failed the tests, so I have returned them and I have received other good HDDs.
smartctl --smart=on --device=sat /dev/***
smartctl --test=long --device=sat /dev/***
(--device=sat is for the normal SATA or USB devices of Linux, such as "/dev/sda", which use SCSI commands; --device=nvme would be for NVME SSDs; other cases are described in the man page)Then you can read from time to time the test log:
smartctl --log=xselftest --device=sat /dev/***
When the test has finished, a line announcing that will appear in the log, saying that the test has passed or failed. If there are errors, they will appear in the log while the test progresses.In theory you can make a script that runs periodically smartctl, e.g. once every 5 minutes, and which parses the smartctl output and signals the end of a test.
However, because I run such tests only seldom, when buying a new disk, I did not write such a script.
You can use the HDD during the test, unless the test had been started with:
smartctl --captive --test=long --device=sat /dev/***
In the case of a "captive" test, attempting to use the drive for another purpose will abort the test.While you can use the drive during a test, that will increase the duration of the test.
Screenshot: https://gsmartcontrol.shaduri.dev/screenshots#a-test-in-prog....
The progress displayed is somewhat illusory, because the estimated time until finish that is provided by the HDDs is unreliable. It is frequently wrong for the long test by even 20% to 50%, which means a difference of several hours.
Would most of the helium exit, until it was balanced with just the partial pressure of helium in the atmosphere? That would be nearly a vacuum, wouldn't it?
I don't know the answer, but this does make me think of atomic sieves like the ones used in oxygen concentrators.
This is an armchair scientist explanation of them, but they "concentrate" oxygen by first having atmospheric air pumped in and then pressurized. The microsieves have holes so small that mostly only oxygen can fit through, the larger CO2 and Nitrogen atoms simply won't fit.
Then, pressure is let off and fresh air brought in. The fresh air scrubs out the oxygen depleted air and refreshes it with standard air.
Then, the pressure decrease allows the oxygen to leak back out of the sieves, leaving you with oxygen enriched air.
I don't know if there are any atomic helium sieves, but if you can find one it might be a start to testing the question.
Since this hollow core would be much larger than the crystalline structures in a metal would this not therefore be a very weak comparison?
Consider it another way. If you have such a device with a vacuum inside, would it not pull in the external helium over time to reduce the vacuum?
External partial pressure of helium which is extremely low.
> Consider it another way. If you have such a device with a vacuum inside, would it not pull in the external helium over time to reduce the vacuum?
It would, but only until the partial pressure of helium inside is equal to the partial pressure of helium outside (assuming the membrane is permeable only to helium). After that point the same amount of helium will traverse both ways, establishing the equilibrium.
Ignoring the fact that what you're describing sounds suspiciously like a Maxwell's demon, I think the equilibrium would be at a higher pressure because helium escaping against an overall pressure gradient would be doing work.
In essence, at the boundary I think the rate at which helium escapes would not simply be proportional to the gradient created by the internal pressure and the exterior partial pressure, but I think would include a term involving the whole exterior pressure.
The difference in this situation will be very small in my opinion, broadly because the gas molecules in the atmosphere still have comparatively high mean free paths and therefore won’t interact with the “escaping” helium molecules.
For what it's worth, this is done industrially to separate gasses using porous membranes.
Turns out the "veblen good" did quite well and didn't break.
And James Cameron got a limited edition Rolex Sea-Dweller deep sea model named after him.
The watch was designed for saturation diving - people essentially living at high pressure in a pressure cylinder, breathing a mixed gas which includes a high helium percentage (as nitrogen becomes narcotic). This saved them hours of decompression every dive - just do one decompression at the end of the job.
The problem was despite all of the seals to withstand seawater, the watches would let helium in & gradually equalise the internal & external pressures. All fine until they came up to the surface, when the watch would blow the crystal off, as the helium couldn't escape quickly enough to equalise. The Helium valve is there to release this pressure on ascent.
The sea dweller was designed as a highly specialised tool for a specialised industry, before becoming luxury item.
edit: the close up in the Wikipedia article actually is from a hard drive
0.376 litres for total 3.5-inch HDD volume from my first Google result: "Width: 101.6 mm, Height: 25.4 mm, Length: 146 mm". Actual volume used for platters is less than that.
Helium is light ~ 0.169 g/litre from "0.169 kg of Helium is 0.999 m3 at 15°C": https://microsites.airproducts.com/gasfacts/helium.html Note that I think comment assumed one litre of normal air not Helium: "The density of dry air is 1.2929 g/litre at STP".
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/important-safety-info....
Even though He is constantly venting to space, alpha emitters keep replenishing it.
Cheap helium from 7% CH4 wells is not going to last. But we're not going to run out of He. Just the energy to extract it.
Yep, it says right there that a "standard" helium tank is adequate to fill 10,000 hard drives. I am going to assume that by "standard" they mean 220ft^3 or 250ft^3, even though my "standard" for tanks is 125ft^3 because I can comfortably carry one of those on my shoulder.
Air is like water in other ways too. We slightly "float" in air by the weight of air we displace. e.g. 80kg person is approximately 80 litres (density of a body is 1.010 kg/litre). Weight of displaced air is approx 0.1 gram (1.2929 gram/litre). So the floating effect of air reduces your weight (not mass) by about 0.1%.
I don’t think it is vey similar. That bubble pushes against the water to maintain itself; it manages to do that only because its “push” increases the higher its pressure and it is more compressible than water.
The vacuum, on the other hand, is compressible (if you want to call that so), but its “push” remains zero if you do, so it needs help to push against the air to maintain itself.
That’s why the post your replied to said “vacuums tend to collapse on themselves, I think it might be more costly in structural elements to prevent that?”
Perhaps there is a hapy medium between air resistance and cushioning? Reducing the air by an amount might help.
Although, I'd be surprised if they hadn't thought of this already :)
But their website looks pretty stale, and I don’t see evidence of traction from brief Googling.
ASME Boiler and Pressure Vessel Section V
Helium leak detection sensitivity is 3 orders of magnitude higher.
Memory is fallible, but the code doesn't lie.
Why?
It's used in power station generators. Why would a hard disk be interesting?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen-cooled_turbo_generato...
Larger amounts handled in the manufacturing process, OTOH...
I'm curious how the shaft seals for generators manage to seal the hydrogen. Perhaps the hydrogen is contained within the the generator and not exposed to the seals, though I thought one of the reasons for its use (along with cooling) was reduced windage losses.
Plus I think that the 0/1 bits are not encoded as "no magnetism"/"some magnetism", but instead as "north magnetism"/"south magnetism" since magnetic fields have a direction.
And I don't think the magnetic fields on the platters have any appreciable effect on the head besides the electromagnetic effects at the sensor.
edit: Maybe something in this direction? [2]
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbach_array
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_bearing
[2] https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20070006849/downloads/20... ("Development and Testing of a Radial Halbach Magnetic Bearing")
I'm surprised that there was such demand for spinning disks, I would have thought SDDs would have replaced them all.
I say ‚was‘ as the article is from 2021.
Enterprise purchases will be much lower, but as a consumer you can buy a 12TB helium-sealed HDD for $100-$200, while solid state alternatives don’t even reach that capacity in a single unit and cost 5-10x more.
Seriously, how realistic is it to get a job like this guy's? Open ended, no rules, just solving problems... Most days I'm fine with a boring specialized engineering career, but this one got to me...
So, be one of the best in the field, and perhaps folks will trust you to do wild open-ended research forever. I think that sounds like a pretty reasonable deal.
Stupid question, but could you potentially create a helium balloon that never runs out of helium (because it's sealed and doesn't leak)?
Why would you assume that a basic metal foil would keep helium indefinitely?
I have also worked with high vacuum in lab exercises. There's a leak finder apparatus using helium because helium creeps through the smallest leaks - but they have to be leaks! Hydrogen just diffuses through anyway, though not quickly through thick metal (I have that from Wikipedia).
I have seen a YT on someone doing this in a lab env but I always assumed that you can't contain it indefinitely
I assume it would be way more expensive but if it lasted for decades or more...
- They moved all the casing openings to the top of the drive and used a thin metal foil as a second cover.
- They adapted laser welding techniques from the satellite industry to seal the foil to the casing without damaging components with excess heat.
- They found an aluminum alloy used in aerospace that could withstand the laser welding without cracking.
- To get electricity and data in and out without breaking the seal, they used glass-metal feedthroughs similar to those used to seal Freon in refrigerators.
- To get the solder to adhere when attaching the feedthroughs, they used a nickel plating mask.
I wonder if this is still the case. I took a WD helium hard drive apart recently and I think I saw just a PCB glued in place for the electrical signals. Probably made from very special materials, but it looked just like usual.
After 1960, better passivating methods for the semiconductor chips have been developed, so the hermetic packages have been slowly replaced with plastic packages for most applications.
It is likely that the PCB glued in place covers the glass-metal feedthroughs, which have metal pins that are inserted in connectors soldered on the PCB. It is impossible for any case that contains helium to have any part made of plastic in any of its walls. Plastic parts like a PCB can only be attached externally.
to add a bit more context:
- laser welding has been in use since 01967 and is used not only for satellites but also for auto body panels, pacemakers, 3-d printing (sls/slm), batteries, etc.
- glass-metal feedthroughs are used in incandescent lightbulbs, fluorescent tubes, neon tubes, and vacuum tubes (including crts and electron microscopes), because in all cases you need a vacuum-tight seal around the wires that lead into the tube. special glass formulations with custom thermal expansion coefficients have been available for this purpose since at least the 01950s. the refrigerator guys may have the cheapest ones but they didn't invent them
- nickel plating is the conventional way to make steel solderable with electronic solders since forever. it's also used, for example, to make battery tabs solderable. i think this goes back to the 19th century
that is, the design process the article depicts is considerably less daringly original than the author makes it sound. the people who made it work deserve a lot of praise, but because manufacturing is hard and they had to solve a lot of hard problems, not because they're geniuses doing totally unprecedented things with brilliant strokes of insight. the author makes it sound like that presumably because she doesn't know anything about the problem space
if you like that kind of thing, you'll probably enjoy dalibor farný's youtube channel where he documents his process of solving the problems of his nixie tube factory (including vacuum-tight glass-metal seals) in a czech castle https://www.youtube.com/@daliborfarny/videos
If you are bored I'd be interested to hear what level it's at on old drives.
Like is it still 100% after a year? [edit] I assume the 100/64h means 100% maybe not [1]
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows8/comments/11ndk0o/what_is_c...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis_and_...
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/wl20q2/just_a_...
My other helium drives (WUH721816AL5204 — 16TB Ultrastar DC HC550) are SAS, and I don't know how to check helium levels of these (smartctl reports neither SMART 22 nor anything related to helium).
It's a good article, and I learned a lot, but every so often it reads like something an 8th grader would write the night before their paper is due.
Plenty of "unscathed" around, but I don't think I ever met the "un"-free word.
Reminds me of the P.G.Wodehouse "far from gruntled" ( https://nydamprintsblackandwhite.blogspot.com/2011/05/words-... )
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1994/07/25/how-i-met-my-w...
Li+, Be++, B+++ are tinier than He, but they are ions, not neutral atoms. Neutral Li, Be, B are bigger than He, because they have an additional electron layer. Both neutral H and H- are bigger than He, because their one or two electrons are attracted less by a proton than by a He nucleus with double charge. H+ is just a bare proton, so it is orders of magnitude smaller than any other ion, but it is not a neutral atom.
So He is indeed the smallest neutral atom.
Is neon more plentiful than helium?
Edit: No.
"...neon is comparatively scarce on Earth... It is primarily obtained through the fractional distillation of liquid air, making it significantly more expensive than helium due to air being its sole source."