Apple is About to Reduce Google's Revenues
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but the quote he uses (his own) to support this actually combines search and maps with no indication of the proportion of revenue between the two products: "The figures also suggest that Apple devices such as the iPhone, which use products such as its Maps as well as Google Search in its Safari browser, generated more than four times as much revenue for Google as its own handsets in the same period." [ http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/06/09/apple-is-... ]
Also - This calculation was debunked shortly after it was published: http://marketingland.com/no-google-doesnt-make-four-times-mo...
So yes, agreed, his connecting of dots come across poorly but it didn't stop him from gathering 38k views.
From what I've seen, articles on forbes.com are mostly low-quality - often blogspam or tabloid-style journalism. They seem to have a good reputation in society which isn't represented by their articles.
I would be a happier living in a filter bubble with "forbes.com" removed from my life.
http://jimromenesko.com/2012/02/21/nyt-reporter-defends-forb...
In general (though, agreed, ~off-topic here), more can be done w/r/t quality assurance of a distributed content network. Something like "report blogspam" is highly subjective and rife with abuse potential. Slashdot's moderation / meta moderation, in combination with straight up and down votes by the wider community, can be effective. Relying on a "central editorial functions" to handle it all is inefficient and doesn't scale well.
This - reputation, rewards, quality (of writers, content, community) - has been an area of interest for me for years. I'm actively working on same currently. I'll put an Ask HN together and see if it gets any traction.
(Disclaimer: I work at Forbes and speak here only for myself)
There's another similar kind of misunderstanding whenever Apple releases the "money they have paid to developers". First they forget that Apple only ever mentions the total amount they have paid since the App Store was created in 2008.
They also forget that again, Apple had a huge headstart in both number of apps and in number of units in the market until late 2010 or so, and that only more recently they've had about the same amount of apps and number of units in the market as Apple.
So when you compare the "total amount" Apple has paid to devs to Google's "total amount" that they paid to devs, obviously Apple will come out on top because of their huge headstart in the first 2-3 years. But if you compare the last quarter or last year for both, which is a lot more relevant for devs, because they'd want to know how much they can make right now, Apple might still come out on top, but the difference should be a lot smaller, and definitely not something like $3 billion vs $100 million.
Hopefully the "Apple media" will remember this before they start slamming Google when Apple will release their new numbers, without really understanding the context of those numbers.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/12/business/la-fi-googl...
In the US, Google accounted for 28% of smartphones versus Apple's 21%.
Apple opened its App Store in July 10, 2008. Google opened up its Android Market in 22 October 2008.
If you follow Apple's conference calls, you'd realize that Apple gives frequent updates of the amount being paid out to developers. In the last quarter, Apple paid developers approx. $500 million. So far as I can see, Google doesn't release figures for what they pay Android developers in either app or ad revenues.
If Google was to be more transparent with their revenues and how much Android developers receive, then there could be a genuine accounting for how each platform is doing, but ironically in these instances Apple is far more open than Google.
You could say that Apple makes infinity times more money from their app store if you were just talking about sales of apps.
But if were talking Googles income then the Android vs iOS stats are more relevant qhich are more like 60 vs 20%
Nonetheless, iOS beats out Android in web browser usage which is why Google derives much more ad dollars from iOS compared to Android. That is the important metric.
"Market share" doesn't mean anything if it doesn't translate to something else that is valued in smart phone terms such as browser usage, paid app installs, app usage, advertising dollars generated.
Google does care. Which is why they brought up their Google Maps announcements early last week.
An iOS device has been sold for every 20 people currently on planet earth... Obviously the distribution is a little skewed ;-) But still, it's a staggering number.
The Android numbers where Android has sold a gabazillion more units than Apple always seem a bit fishy to me, based on what I see around me. Luckily, we can see what people are actually using, actually for real:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-ww-monthly-201105-20120...
With the death of the old mobile phones and the rise of the smart phone someone had to pick up the place of the LCD, with the much lower entry level of Android on dirt cheap hardware it is clear that Android has picked up the crowd of "I just want a phone that makes calls" crowd which I can't see Google making any money out of.
On the other side, I suppose you could ask how many people use iPod Touches as pure music/video players, though the music player market is getting less important with time, unlike feature phone conversions.
So even though it is free they are still making money.
Truth to be told, Google search results are worse than few years ago. At the same time, they look more and more like a christmas tree - ads and other junk (google products?, google plus results?) everywhere.
Compare: http://blekko.com/ws/c%23+get+custom+attribute+/monte
With: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=c%23+get+custom+attribute
Blekko claims the first google result is "C: Summary for Citigroup, Inc. Common Stock- Yahoo! Finance", while google finds the relevant information.
This is definitively not the case outside of the US. At least not here in the Scandinavian countries.
In the bigger picture, Bing still has a long way to go.
What indications tell you that Google is loosing people's trust, besides your own ?