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Hopefully this update also comes to ollama soon <3

So far I have to say I prefer llama3 for general interaction. It feels more natural. And this really is from all the big tech ones: llama3, phi3, gemma2, mistral, aya..

I really miss a bigger version of llama3 though. 8b is not using my gpu effectively. I could easily fit a 14b version but there isn't one. The next step up 70b is way too big.

Weird, I feel Gemma2 is overall better even if it doesn't follow instructions a bit more often than llama3.

Luckily filtering out preambles like "Sure, let me help you with that" from primarily JSON/YAML answers is easy enough IMHO.

You can use a grammar to enforce the output being valid JSON.

Do you know any tools that enforce grammar or structure, that allow the use of general instructions (e.g., use 5 positive English words)? I believe I saw such a tool mentioned by Abetlen, although it wasn't their tool, but I can't seem to find it now. I've already checked LMQL, SGLang, Guidance, and Outlines. Thanks.

Answering my own question: Another project called Instructor has a `llm_validator` method that fits in with it's Pydantic oriented constrained typed generation.

https://python.useinstructor.com/api/#instructor.dsl.validat...

Would be helpful if they label it meaningfully. V2 or whatever. Else it’s very hard to tell what is updated especial in quants

Phi-3.1 for example.

Huh, I wonder if the large improvement in understanding Java is heavily connected with understanding C# better?

I'm just guessing based on language similarities between the two

I first learned Java at the time. C# after, but c# always felt way better regarding syntax ( I found it to be less bloated)

C# is basically a "Microsoft Java". They tried this already with J# and their own runtime, but then got sued and decided to make their own JVM but this time with blackjack... and hookers.

Microsoft Java makes it sound likes it's an inferior clone. Rather C# is Java reinvented with the benefit of hindsight, and improved with new concepts and sound language design from there.

Both languages have a too enterprisey ecosystem for my taste, but when given the choice between Java and C# I would take C# every time. Though modern Java certainly made efforts to catch up again.

Blackjack, hookers, and reified generics!

C# for the first three or so major versions was more Microsoft Object Pascal With Braces than anything.

A prediction: Great LLM support will become a competitive advantage for programming languages in the future.

Big improvements in coding support there; JSON generation and long code benchmarks look like big wins. Anyone here using Phi-3 for local code support right now?

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