Exorcising Us of the Primer
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I know of engineers who credit their success to being sent to a Montessori school or a Waldorf school, but I imagine the real reason is simply that their parents paid enough attention and had enough money to send them to a small, elite school of any kind.
I went to a big, ailing public school in a low-income neighborhood. The challenges faced by the teachers had nothing to do with fixing "authoritarianism" in education (something that this article gets hung up on). They were struggling to make sure the kids show up sober and that by the end of the day, at least some of them know how to read and write.
If you want to fix education and improve the society, the ROI on the low end is much better than on the high end. It's less about enlightenment and more about basic functioning in a society.
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The tutor helps immerse the student; the tutor creates a rapid feedback loop for the student to test out ideas; the tutor scaffolds problems and adjusts to the student's pace and failures; the tutor ought to motivate the student.
I worry that these thought-pieces are too dreamy, and that there's unrealistic expectations for tech to solve teaching. Hopefully those in this space are grounded by real teaching experience.
Ultimately, I've found that the best learning happens with highly motivated students and/or with thoughtfully designed learning content. On well-designed content: I'm reminded of the recent HN post about map coloring, which was scaffolded into simple steps with basic interaction, and another post about Chile, which flowed smoothly with digestible writing and lots of images. The tech was largely irrelevant to those posts.
“only after they’d satisfied the primary constraint of making something fun, or beautiful, or whatever, the designers figured out how to ensure people would learn what they need as they play. Most mechanisms are not fun. Good games come from a demanding selection process which works the other way around: first, find the fun. There’s no reason at all to believe that for any arbitrary abstract topic, one can always ‘find the fun’ which implicitly teaches it.”
the best educated people are those who were mentored into a competence and that's not ever going to be evenly distributed. imo the primer was an expression of replicating that, hence the guiding structure the author criticizes. if you start with what are essentially gnostic ideas about unraveling the illusions of the culture by initiating people into critical mysteries vs. just giving them tools to practice with and guide them to adopt the implicit morality of competence, the primer is less problematized. I think the author may be bringing some prior critical ideas to it that are worth looking at objectively.
It was a tool for rich heiress to be trained for operation on the level expected from one in remarkably bloodthirsty ultracapitalist setting, and only ends up in hands of unprivileged kid by accident of a crime compounding another crime.
It was preparing someone to be in position of authority through inheritance and safeguarding that they will have the knowledge and skills to keep it.
Thing is, we do manipulate children. They're children and malleable and we teach them a sorts of lessons, starting with potty training and where's appropriate to pee and poop, along with work ethic, honesty, the idea of personal property and intellectual property and not stealing or cheating. When to lie, when no to.
What's alluring about the Primer is the idea that there's a guide to life. Who hasn't made some sort of social faux pas and wished they hadn't done that? If only I'd learned about whatever, I wouldn't have done this embarrassing thing! A more thorough exploration of the Primer's allure needs to be done before it can be replaced.
(@dang, please give people-who-post extra points for making the title on HN more helpful than the original (as a general rule, with occasional exceptions))
The first two sentences of the linked article.