Why I Wear The Same Thing Every Day, And What I Wear
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I think I made it to age 30 without ever owning 3 pairs of pants at one time.
Granted, a sample size of 1 is not terribly informative; however, my gut feeling is that a women's wardrobe will generally be considerably larger than a man's wardrobe.
On an unrelated note, I love hearing about life hacks like these. Reminds you of how much else there is left to optimize.
The author is definitely NOT stylish by any reasonable definition of this word. Hence the difference in the wardrobe size. Things like "ethical" or "green" consumption only make situation worse.
Do you remember what your friends wore yesterday? From what I've experienced, clothing doesn't really matter once you get past first impressions.
Hoodies and band shirts are not stylish and never will be.
...unless you mean to say something like: in the style of a young urbanite.
The word 'stylish' in terms of fashion refers to more than just clothing though, it's meaning is closer to 'swagger' and it has connotations to 'classical style' or 'classy', which is where band shirts and hoodies fall out.
Women have lots of stuff - not just clothes, but everything (before someone complains - this is not sexism etc. just simple observation)
Time for a declutter I think...
Clothes: I like the smell of heavy wool jumpers and (Donegal) tweed jackets.
Edit: not complaining or anything. Just genuinely curious :)
I've changed my sex. I used to be male, now I'm female.
My wardrobe used to be "a collection of t-shirts and 4-5 pairs of jeans". Now it's a whole closet full of blouses, dresses, and skirts, plus a dresser with a few more things. I recently did a purge and got the stuff down in my closet to 100 individual pieces.
Edit: Probably the root of my question would be does a transexual person like yourself truly feel female? And if you do does the feeling of being female precede or follow the switch? As you said your wardrobe was smaller before you switched to female. It would be very interesting if it had grown before the switch and then you made the switch. Fundamentally I ask these questions because I want to understand at least a little about what transexual life must feel like because I can not imagine it personally.
Part of the reason my wardrobe grew is that I actually like my body now and want to show it off. Part of it's that women are expected to put more effort into how their clothes coordinate, and generally allowed to dress more flamboyantly.
(There are also lots of nerdy transwomen out there who keep on dressing Geek Casual after the transition. I am not one of them.)
This is a nice hack.
And frankly it is a bit confusing. Would you really wear a band t-shirt and a hoodie to a funeral?
[edit following comment below: I see, so it's "I wear the same thing ever day" for different values of the word "same"? I am somehow underwhelmed. ]
It seems like she still has quite a lot of clothes to own.
A story from growing up: a friend and I were about to play strip poker with his second cousin. Not wanting to lose too bad, we both put on everything we possibly could, including gloves and even paper face masks (being nervous young teens, we kinda missed the point of strip poker was to lose). In total we were each able to bring our total number of losable items before nakedness to 18. Fronting up to the cousin, she laughed and counted out her clothes - her everyday clothing totalled 18 items... even now, I can't remember what they all were, but I remember being gobsmacked at the time. Parents came home before that story went any further, though.
Boatload of old tshirts though.
You'll be golden.
It just occurred to me that one could map days of the week to colors:
SMTWTFS ROYGBIV
What is described in this article is, basically, the way almost every western man in a casual profession dresses. I wake up in the morning and pull on jeans, a t-shirt, and top it with a long sleeve, sweater or nothing depending on the weather. Yet no one would have any interest in reading a blog post about it.
Perhaps this article attracted attention because it was well-written and well-produced with a liberal use of attractive graphics...as opposed to the 100% width Times-New-Roman-400-word-paragraph format that many bloggers use. Why were you so quick to jump to sexism?
For women, coming to the same kind of decision is a lifestyle hack. I don't know what to think about that.
Black dress (shoes, pants, belt) white shirt (button down w/ tie for work, t-shirt everywhere else.) Black wool trench coat when it's cold.
My wardrobe has become suboptimal because of it. 1 pair of jeans = too few, 2 pair = just right, 3 pair = maybe a good idea, but c'mon, 2 is enough.
As a guy this seems totally fine. Women seem to have it much harder and not really because of men either. Women (generally speaking) are highly critical of other women and much more conscious of their appearance and behaviour because of other women (take women's shoes: the only people who care are other women) so it's interesting for me to hear this "utilitarian" approach from a women's perspective.
I find the comments on jeans interesting. She's right in that there is a lot of variation in women's jeans but this in itself sends an interesting signal.
In the past couple of years there has been a style of skinny leg jeans. By and large these look ridiculous. Below the waist straight leg jeans are basically timeless so right there you have an easy differentiator between those women governed by the fashion of the day and those governed by other considerations (like actually looking good; yes there's a difference between that and being a slave to trends).
Anyway, for wearing the same thing there sure seems to be a lot of clothes on that page.
I firmly believe from experience that no t-shirt looks better than a washed-once American Apparel black T in the right size. It's the closest thing we hackers have to a suit, I think.
By "runners" I assume you mean running shoes? Those aren't all-weather and can't be worn with an actual suit. I've a nice pair of black Doc Martens which shine up wonderfully, and have been treated to be fairly waterproof. They are perfect universal-occasion shoes, and incredibly comfortable.
Wow. That's is a HUGE pile of t shirts.
You say "washed-once" is a good look but do you throw them away afterwards?
I think 150 t shirts would last me 150+ years
They are business-presentable for 3-4 washes, and around-the-house for another 4 or 5 after that.
A big part of it is that I live somewhere with exceptionally hard water for a major city (Berlin), so they tend to develop the characteristic white edge thing that happens to black clothing more quickly than "normal" (for other locales).
I figure my latest batch will last me ~3 years?
Buying them in big batches is a huge time and money saver, even if I just tossed them after 3 washes.
[1] http://www.walmart.com/ip/Calgon-Water-Softener-1-qt/1342460...
T-shirts cost me ~$400/year presently. I live on a 4th floor walkup, my washer is on my second floor (yet another floor up), chemical water softeners are heavy, and shirts simply don't cost enough to jump through hoops of buying, carrying, and stocking another heavy supply fluid (already doing that for detergent and fabric softener).
I try not to add significant inconvenience to my life for things that will save me under $1000/year.
To put it in perspective, I spend more on bottled water than I do clothing.
200 of them is only $1200 that way, and it'll last me 3-4 years easily.
T-shirts: SOLVED.
Cyberpunk will never die as long as one person is still living the dream!
My t-shirts last about 3 years. Business-presentable up to a year or so ... that's hundreds of washes considering I cycle through most of my t-shirt stack every 1.5 weeks.
After 5 years they're only good enough for the gym, on account of the fabric becoming weird. The colour is still mostly fine.
Also, I think you're doing something seriously wrong when washing your t-shirts ... you are doing cold washes right? Nothing above 40C and all that ... also, is your washing machine filled with sand or something?
You live in a world that is quite distant from mine and anyone I know.
I think of this as the "Boohoo, societal beauty standards are brutal, please pass the Cosmo" conundrum.
Her essay was a fun read and I loved her pixel art. But I think my wardrobe is less complicated than hers and it would never occur to me to write about it. I rather think she's romanticized a completely normal and unremarkable way of living… the CPU quote as a sign.
FWIW, nobody's commented on or criticized my clothing choices since an ex's mother, nearly 7 years ago, bought me fancy button-up shirts without asking, but I think she just thought I dressed the way I did because I was poor. Ha. :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/meatstravaganza/5793064302/in/g...
This isn't to say I wear the same shirt an tie. Obviously I own dozens but the point is when I dress in the morning all I have to do is:
- grab any socks and pants,
- grab any shirt, trousers and jacket (they are all toned down and guaranteed not to clash),
- and now (the ONLY time I exert my half-asleep brain) pick a tie that isn't too offensive
You are dressed for any occasion, regardless how (in)formal. Never need to think about what to wear, don't need to own different clothes for different occasions, never need to buy new clothes simply because of fashion changes - shirt and tie has been around for decades and is likely to stay until well after I'm dead. The only time I buy new clothes is when I retire old ones due to wear and tear.
Served me well all my life. Never felt overdressed and my friends forgive me if I ever am but the point is that perfect strangers will react positively and are more likely to treat you well and trust you.
We don't do baseball in the UK but I get your meaning. You can always take the tie off - instant casual. With the local climate there's little chance of getting too hot but I don't wear a sweatshirt underneath the shirt so all I need to do is take the jacket off and unbutton the collar in case the sun makes an appearance in between the fog and the drizzle.
Actually, I did have a problem once, something mentioned here a couple of times. Riding a bicycle would snag the trouser leg occasionally. Fixed that with a safety pin.
Wouldn't bicycle clips be easier to put on and take off? They also have the advantage that they can be made of yellow, reflective material.
The big distinction comes in with the belt and shoes colors. A lot of colors of gray I wouldn't wear with non-black shoes and belts. The socks that I wear also depend on if I'm wearing black/dark gray pants or something more Earth tone.
Certain colors work a lot better together than others. While purple can go with black or dark gray, it really pops with brown.
What I have found is that you can never own too many white collared shirts. You can wear them several times a week and no one will notice. You can wear them with a suit, with dress slacks, with chinos, with jeans, etc. A white collared shirt is always a good decision, except when eating Italian.
I bow my head in respect of your colour coordination. Myself I can hardly tell colours apart let alone match them. I make sure I don't have any vibrant colours so I don't have to make those choices and just make sure the tie has some common theme with the shirt. When in doubt I pick one of the black ones.
My socks are usually only a few colors, and I never seem to have enough. I think my only real life hacker tip for clothing would be to always have way more socks, underwear and undershirts than you need.
I can usually find pants, a shirt and other accessories. But socks? I'm always scrambling to find some.
I should probably go by 10 pairs of socks today.
I am currently homeless and currently literally own only (clothes-wise) the jeans, long sleeved T and sandals I am currently wearing. That is not due to being homeless. Instead, it is made possible by being homeless. It is a health choice, rooted in my ongoing efforts to kill the infection that nearly took my life eleven years ago. My relationship to clothing has been complicated and it was when I got over caring so much about how I looked that my background came in handy for flying under the radar socially while living a very strange life. I have had the most fun with clothes in recent years while not being a slave to societal expectations about how women should look/dress.
Anyway, it is something I want to write about but do not know where to start. I am hoping this piece helps me with those plans. So thanks for writing this. I feel like I have a million things to say about it but I want a) to not let my day get eaten by this distraction and b) would rather write it for one of my websites than for discussion here.
Writing that blog post in itself probably took more than a few hours — to write, review, edit, do the graphics for it, etc. If the initial goal was to spend time not thinking about clothes, that doesn't really feel like an optimal way to reach it.
Why not? It's called optimization. You spend time once to improve a process, and reap savings from that moment on.
That is, there are people who spend much of their time doing "lifehacks" through these sorts of peep-hole optimizations [1], and this clothing strategy feels representative of such actions. I can easily see someone who is already a "lifehacker" adding this to their existing system.
Blue jeans, black t-shirt, light jumper (I have about 20 in different colors), and soccer flats. I have a suit which I have to wear about once a year.
Base: jeans, black t-shirt, possibly a fleece vest, leather shoes.
Cold weather (~20F or below): beanie, leather jacket (lined), scarf, possibly a heavy sweater depending on the duration of being outside, and gloves. Also athletic tights (more insulation than just plain jeans).
Really, it doesn't take much.
Sunlight daytime and night are somewhat different. And yes, I do tend to run warm (body mass and musculature help).
Indoors: shorts and a T.
I think a wearsthis site, similar to usesthis.com, would be quite popular. I'd like to know what shoes Spolsky is wearing, what t-shirts pg prefers, what brand of underwear Drew Houston uses, and, of course, where does Zuck gets his hoodies (they are custom made: http://www.quora.com/Mark-Zuckerberg-1/What-brand-of-hoodie-...).
While coding (and especially when I'm hung up on a problem) every little distraction, even miniscule, distracts me, so I hate wearing shirts, I have to wear t-shirt. I've yet to see t-shirts that are marketed predominantly for coders, say, with a nice quote on them (e.g. ""Metaprogramming is the language feature that helps you write code that you won't be able to understand once the cocaine (or Ritalin) wears off."") and the ASCII table on the back.
I actually want to do something with fashion. Not sure what. I have tried asking around on HN and found it frustrating. This discussion is turning into a goldmine of food for thought (or maybe buffet?).
I think just going around asking valley luminaries what they wear & pack while traveling and why would be a great place to start.
I am still trying to decide what exactly I want to do (in addition to spouting off on several websites). I have already written a tiny bit about clothes on one of my blogs and I want to do more of that. I think there is room for a kind of brainiac's guerrilla fashion site, so to speak. Thank you for your remarks.
I have two ASD sons who have a yawning disinterest in things like fashion and who live in shorts and t-shirts. We get told they are "beautiful" young men and asked about their hair, etc. too. So I think I am uniquely qualified to bring guerrilla fashion to folks who do not give a flying fuck about fashion and would take glee in being praised for their t-shirts and hoodies.
My girlfriend has been absolutely in love with these, and I've been getting her damn near every new one they come out with, because they look great and (apparently) are a great fit and good materials.
I find this to be the case too often. Jeans are easy (Levi 501, anyone?) but finding a t-shirt or collared shirt that fits well, is comfortable and that I will likely be able to buy over and over again for the next 10 years is quite difficult.
GAP and Uniqlo sort of do this but even they change things around a lot. I think sites like Everlane.com could do quite well out of this concept: most people like to stick with basics they love. Make good basics and keep them around forever. I've always wanted to be able to login on my iPhone and click 'give me two new t-shirts' and have them delivered to my door, the iPhone app should know where I live, my card number and my favourite stuff...no questions asked!
I have a few pairs of jeans, a few pairs of t-shirts, and a few pair of button-down shirts, and a couple pairs of shoes.
I don't call it "wearing the same thing every day" and I still have far less than this person and I never "waste brainpower" on deciding what to wear. Her whole post gave me brain cramps, however.
1. Typical example, Raymond Davis: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/02/article-0-0E2E4ADE...
It's also a look that will be difficult to pull off when she's 20 years older. For some reason, women have to dress their age. My guess is because there is so much societal pressure for women to look younger that there is significant backlash when the effort becomes too transparent.
Men have it easy. A well fitted Saville Row cut suit has been relatively fashionable for at least a century. The only thing you'd have had to change would have been the tie, and you would have had to lose the hat about 50 years ago.
Though, they have also cost a small fortune for at least a century.
I'd be laughed out of the office if I wore that.
I don't even smoke. ;)
I agree, a Dr. No-era Bond suit is a timeless style icon, but if the rest of the group is wearing 80s style "power suits", you'd be the odd one out, which in some jobs would not be really good for your career.
Buy a suit that fits your build and it will never look too far out of place. Don't buy exaggerated cuts (like the present too-tight fit with too-short pants). The trendiest items will always be a little different, but they don't vary too far from the middle. You only look silly when you buy clothes too far on one extreme and the trend moves to the other end.
See here for examples: http://theimpossiblecool.tumblr.com/
I'm not doing it at all. Jeans, t-shirts, occasionally a simple two-button suit, if required.
But for a lot of management guys, especially in finance, not being "too far out of place" just doesn't cut it. Somewhere you have to be more conservative than the general fashion, somewhere your tie and lapels have to be the proper width of the season. Never mind the often considerate difference between British, Italian and American fashion. We're talking about business fashion, not artist/actor style. (Never mind the preppy side of all those style guides and blogs.)
I'm not arguing about the timeless cuts, I'm a big fan of the toned down British style. And given the audience of this site, it's a good suggestion. Basically the 80/20 solution of menswear.
But it's really not like you've either got timeless fashion or 70s brown checkered suits with bell bottoms.
In any event, this is a much tougher problem for women than men, but she isn't really describing "an outfit" but a wardrobe. I don't have a problem with that, but the title is misleading.
Its much more difficult, IMO, to be a woman and dress simply and look consistently "nice" than it is for a man, who can throw on pants and a polo/dress shirt and look classy.
A guy with Timoni's tastes following this strategy would just buy a hoodie, shirts and pants from the Gap. Done. For a girl, having had a kid might mean that Gap skirt doesn't fit anymore. Or the shirt is meant for a bigger/smaller bust, etc.
Fashions come and go more in women's clothing, too. My go-to dressup item is a navy blue blazer which is a standard that should be available all the time, right? No, some years standard blazers are out of style and cannot be found.
That's why all the work put in by the OP to find simple, classic styles is mysterious to many men. They can find simple, classic clothes that fit pretty much anywhere. That's a lifehack that's MUCH more difficult for a woman to achieve.
Of course, this probably varies with location.
He told me that it is part of his 'personal brand' so he is easy to recognize and approach when at conferences and public in general.
I wonder how different people's approach to him would be if his signature outfit was a hoodie.
Having read this whole thread, y'know what's even better than wearing the same thing every day? Not wearing the same thing every day. I have a bunch of different clothes, and deciding which of 'em to put on really doesn't take that much time out of my day.
People who say suits are uncomfortable have usually only worn cheap suits.
One thing there's still a dearth of in the marketplace is men's trousers with stretch. I had a pair of gray stretch cotton/spandex (~5%) slacks from Banana Republic 8-10yrs ago that were absolutely perfect for anything, but haven't found much else similar since.
Imho, a simple wardrobe is great but being able to execute on the plan depends wholly on one's lifestyle.
I love my city but two things I can never defend: the heat and the traffic. Aside from that it is heaven on earth.
And now that she's made this public, she's stuck. Want to wear something different, colorful, playful? Fuck it, gotta stick to the schedule.
Clothing isn't time consuming or energy draining. It's about finding a style you're comfortable with, wearing it with confidence, and gently moving in and out of new styles as the times (and your personality) change.
Minimalism takes time to perfect.
And for those who are wondering: nobody commented on my wardrobe.
Sounds right up your alley.
I think I have 12 pairs of pants in active rotation and they should keep me going for a few years.
I like form fitting pants for a number of reasons:
1.) Your cuffs don't stretch out over your shoes and get all mangled by walking on them. Not a good look and it reduces the lifespan of your clothing.
2.) You don't need to roll up your pant legs when biking, as the pants are in no danger of coming in contact with the chains.
3.) They are somewhat revealing and add to sex appeal. Yes, this sort of stuff matter for men as well as women.
Sadly, they're no-brand and I haven't been able to find other similar ones.
In regard to pants/shirts, I'm still on a mission to find basic t-shirts that don't get messed up after many washings. I think pima cotton is the way to go for this (currently, I'm buying my shirts from aether. not cheap, but the quality is great). I have about 10 of the same black shirt (and one red, one blue and one white... just to mix it up a bit when I'm feeling "crazy").
Shoes... I have 3 pairs of black high-tops from Tom's. They are comfortable, can pass in dress-up situations, and cover my heels.
Long story short, I don't really think about what I wear anymore or spend anytime going through that mental process in the morning/evening. Some of my friends think I'm a bit weird, but I'm glad I did it!
My kind of man, I know exactly where you're coming from with this. My sock wardrobe is black socks, white socks and that's it. Never understate the importance of taking care to how you are presented, but at the same time I'm not going to drive myself batty just trying to put together a wardrobe that requires maintenance just finding something.
I have to admit though that this scheme has arisen largely from shopping at thrift stores (not that I probably couldn't afford new clothing, but it remains a thrifty habit from a tight-budgeted youth). I enjoy the hunt for an outfit, but when I find one, I don't have the option of just buying 10 because generally the items are one of a kind in the store. Overall it works for me: interesting clothes, fun finding them, uncomplicated mornings, low budget.
The idea is that 10 pieces of clothing could mix and match to last you an entire year.
The last time I went to the mall I saw way too many cocktail dresses for women but was hard pressed to find active clothing for my wife which looked good. This is a non trivial problem which needs some good brains behind it. No - I don't want to pay for Rapha for some such brand.
He has talked before about his 'style' and says that he used to be very high fashion with his clothing but just found it was too much work.
Alas, what works for a designer in San Francisco will not work for financial industry in Toronto.
Some have already mentioned the climate aspect. In the finance you just cannot come in every day in the same shirt, tie or suit and (to a lesser extent pants or shoes). If you do, you are sort of signalling that either you do not make a lot or cannot manage your money and either is a red flag. So you can say clothes are a part of professional reputation, just not the one you put on a resume.
The look described here sounds simple, but super casual and perhaps a bit dumpy for a designer. I find that the easiest thing for me is to wear all black clothing that fits well (don't buy it unless you feel great in that shape and material, no compromises). Avoid cotton because it fades and has a gross texture. Done.
Isn't this a function with a whole bunch of variables like my mood, the occasion, the people I'm with, etc?
I'm a guy, I'm single, and I live (more or less) alone. This is a domain in which I have some expertise. That said, it really is quite simple not to give a fuck about what you wear:
1) Go to your closet, or armoire, or laundry pile, whatever.
2) Pick out something that fits, doesn't look or smell dirty, and is temperature appropriate.
3) Put it on.
That's it. That's bloody all. I've gotten by like this for the past... ohhhh, six years ago? You've still got this costumery with all these pieces and gewgaws going on. For me it's: shirt, pants, bob's your uncle. I can be up and going in about 20 minutes, including shower.
I really wonder why more women don't do this. It'd be a sign of independence, and it'd shave precious minutes (or hours) off their "getting ready to go to work" time, leaving them more time to... sleep in, or hack, or whatever.
I've never heard an explanation for this but have always assumed that he's so single-mindedly focused on musicianship that he doesn't want to have to think about getting dressed.
Although I know some of the pricey stuff is totally worth the money, it's difficult to break the frugal ways inherited from more difficult times.
But I am going to give away my clearance sale wardrobe and start fresh. Like, Timoni, I don't like having excessive stuff around esp. stuff that doesn't get used. So, I am planning a minimalist, functional, cool+classy and fits-all-occasion collection (SMALL!) which will be periodically recycled.
This post was good for my plans. Tx.
Winter coat or rain coat?
In essence, I suppose I've created a "reminder app" for myself in the sense that I've freed myself of having to think too much about things that should be automated.
It is what I wear day in day out. Sure, I have different colours, black jeans, {dark, light} blue jeans and the dickies shirts come in various colours {red, black, blue, marine blue, navy blue, white, green} but that is pretty much where it ends. Sometimes I'll switch out my fedora for a flat cap.
I own four pairs of jeans, and 8 pairs of dickies shirts, and those dickies shirts have been with me for a VERY long time. My oldest one is now 6 years old and still going strong.
I personally have 1 (North Face) coat, 1 pair of outside jeans and... 160 t-shirts. I guess I would own more jeans if I left my apartment more than twice a month. As a side note I would recommend having so many t-shirts however they take up so much room, I have a 2 bedroom apartment to myself and both wardrobes are full of t-shirts.
I got into the habit of wearing the same thing everyday last year, when I was dealing with some pretty serious colorblindness (corrected now, thankfully). I settled on a dark grey shirt, a light blue shirt and black pants.
Not the fanciest of clothing, but I generally don't need it to be all too often.
I haven't diversified now that I can see colors again. This is easy, comfortable, and requires no tought.
[clarification: I found the pixel art in this post to be incredibly helpful and relevant.]
It's easy to do in San Francisco where it never gets really hot or cold and the only precipitation is a mild drizzle.
If you're in upstate NY, however, you need to design a system that adapts to climate conditions from -15 to 110F.
I feel like I understand how those eastern monks walk around in saffron robes in winter in the mountains.
Right now it's dockers, dress shoes and dress shirts every single day.
I really never understood what forcing a strict dress code on your employees is supposed to accomplish.
Please don't do this.
Everything I wear could, in principle, be used as a model for a web design. This thought was the basis of "Getting Dressed Grid System" which ultimately failed.
I disagree with any "essential" justification for wardrobe. Attire, like anything else, is a tool for expression. Minimalism has its drawbacks, and will be perceived as such in the scheme of other dress styles.
I typically shop at thrift stores or what have you. I am generally "freegan" about clothing, as _anything_ could potentially be used for a design. In similar fashion, we look at font libraries as "bones to pick" for Web design. I believe it is a fruitful intellectual endeavor to view clothes in the same way. Anything might become an article of clothing, even garbage on the street.
I believe establishing a coherent image (like a brand) for one's self through "found clothing" is a better way to go. It makes clothing one's self, like preparing many vegetarian and vegan dishes, more like an activity of story telling: harmony (of ingredients; of colors), consistency (of taste; of themes which identify one's personality), robustness (of flavor; unconventionality of style [which indicates range of experience with fashion]).