A live ranking of airlines by how much luggage they are losing
luggagelosers.com
luggagelosers.com
But the national aspect is seemingly even more interesting -- in India you have a 1 in 97 chance, while in the US it's 1 in 497, and in Japan it's 1 in 7,734.
Now I'm incredibly curious to know what the real, actual culprits are. To what extent is is about the check-in airport or connecting airport that loses it, to what extent is it about airline policies around how luggage is handled, and to what extent is it national regulation that sets standards for airline performance, airport performance, or both?
Because the amount of variation here is just astounding and far, far, beyond anything I would have guessed. I would have naively figured that lost luggage was at a relatively "economically efficient" level and would therefore be pretty similar across airlines and countries... when clearly that is not the case at all.
You can calculate a ratio of social media complaints to lost bags for airlines you have data on and then infer a loss rate for airlines that don't release data.
"There's 102 people who die in a car accident everyday. Someone could have just been struck by lightning while driving and skewed the statistics so that number isn't entirely accurate"
cmon bruh
Semi-related: I work for a homeless service agency and a few of our clients were arrested for a tiny luggage theft ring at LAX a couple of months ago. One of the detectives said that some of the luggage they found was reported missing and it was luck that someone else had airtags hidden in their luggage to be able to track the item which allowed them to discover more items from others.
> Using social media as a data source has limitations but seems to be a good proxy indicator when combined with historical lost luggage data.
I'd like to understand the methodology better here. What's the "historical lost luggage data" referenced here?
I'm skeptical of how accurate scraping twitter posts is. Many (if not most) incidents don't get posted about, so I assume they must be doing some extrapolation.
It would be more interesting to map flight carriers/numbers to handlers (e.g. Menzies) and regions to give a more reasonable blame/availability overview.
Is Delta really contracting out luggage handling at Hartsfield-Jackson?
This is a bit of generally not very useful osint info but a subdomain search on HR platforms can reveal at least to some degree the labor situation at a lot of entities. avature has over 4000 subdomains in their dns records on securitytrails alone. Not all are for staging or VPN access or SMTP. Some are no longer active, but most do resolve. That's medium potatoes at best compared to the 10k+ at bamboohr. Although if you are doing OSINT you're probably not going for a job at a lot of these staffing agencies anyway. Ever since I was asked to leave a Cutco presentation in 2011 I haven't applied for a job since and I've been poached multiple times and am basically retired at 37. But this is a neat trick and I like dataset gathering for its own sake, and it definitely gives off an interesting view of the economy that may or may not reflect how any one feels about how things are going.
(If I need a job, I prefer fangraphs or baseballprospectus anyway, but they aren't hiring anyone who filed tax returns as professional gambler, sadly)
I'll give you an illustrative example that hopefully demonstrate how convoluted things can get. Swissport is one of the largest ground services providers in the world. It was first split off from Swissair as its in-house ground service department and became an entity under the holding company SAirGroup in the mid 90s, after plans to merge several of the flag carriers of smaller European countries fell apart when Swiss citizens voted not to join the EEA and therefore, denying Swissair of access to both 5th freedom rights in the EEA and potential cabotage rights. A few years later shortly after 9/11 the airline collapsed as did the holding group which resulted in Swissport being sold off to private equity (Swiss International took over operations on the airline side, sort of, by virtue of a Swiss government bailout and the acquisition of Crossair, the regional arm of Swissair that was divested earlier, by the creditor banks, but in a ton of debt and had to recoup as much as possible. Swissport continued operating after it was sold off and maintained relationships with, well, eventually just about every major airline through mergers and acquisitions, Crossair became Swiss International and was taken over by Lufthansa in 2005. Swissport has maintained relationships with Swiss through Lufthansa but only provides full service to Swiss at ZRH and cargo service at Basel (which Swiss pulled out of in 2015 on the commercial side, and also, is actually located in France, at least airside). It also handles regional operations for Lufthansa out of Munich. ZRH is the main Swiss hub and also a Lufthansa hub, but the fact that Swissport provides full ground service there is almost happenstance since Swiss serves over 100 other destinations and Swissport over 200, many of which overlap, but they do not directly serve the airline elsewhere except cargo operations to Basel. But there is another major airport in Switzerland, and Swissport operates there, but Swiss and Lufthansa Group uses dnata as their handling agent, a subsidiary of Emirates. dnata has no presence in Basel and is a minority operator in ZRH, where Swissport handles something like 80%+ of all ground operations. If you fly Swiss to just about anywhere else in the world, you'll see Swissport, but they aren't likely, save for some prior arrangement where airlines with limited presence may agree to contract through another airline, to essentially provide service in a separate agreement, but these are more ad hoc and subject to change and affects relatively few flights in comparison.
Lufthansa had its own ground services arm that it sold off - LSG Sky Chefs. Gategroup, which owns Gate Gourmet, was the Swissair catering service until being spun off in the same mid 90s expansion that ended up in the collapse. Swissair is no longer an active brand, but it is still valuable to an extent, so it is licensed out, although I have no idea where - like how Pan Am got licensed out to a freight rail carrier, it's likely stamped somewhere random and unrelated to Switzerland or air traffic, but brings in revenue so, why not?
I rarely fly now and when I do, it's domestic US and by charter. That's a whole other crazy mess but somehow, less messy than the scheduled airline industry and far less problematic than the duopoly both having supply chain issues, as both Airbus and Boeing currently does. That's on the news, if you haven't been paying attention, and it's not going away for a bit, by the looks of it. Air travel, meanwhile, remains safer than driving.
Attribution to airlines doesn't make much sense to me. Country ranking is better but anecdotal experience tells me there are some cursed airports.
That means airlines that cheap out on that will rank higher for lost luggage because they'll get more mentions on social media for lost luggage (usually after days of not getting it back!).
The airlines that return luggage fast won't show up on social media as much.
Super interesting and thank you for sharing!
1.87% Air Lingus (1 in 50! wtf)
0.71% Spirit (well, it's spirit)
0.45% Frontier (ditto)
0.43% United (ditto)
0.32% American
0.16% Ryanair (low cost carriers can be good if they want?)
0.19% Delta
0.14% Southwest
0.01% All Nipon (showing off)Notice the stat "Lost Bags (Over 30 Days) By Country.
11 Countries have the same EXACT number of bags lost over 30 DAYS.
922
What is the chance that TWO countries would be exactly the same let alone 11.
I am not a data scientist but I call BULL.
It says:
> My robot scours social media platforms 24/7 for people talking about their lost luggage and which airlines they flew, in 100+ different languages. By cross referencing that with actual lost luggage data it estimates very closely how much luggage is constantly being lost.
I think it needs more transparency on how this is working. There are going to be major cultural differences in terms of how often people complain on social media about lost luggage, and also just differences in frequencies of different terms ("lost luggage", "lost bags", "lost bag", "lost my bag", "lost my luggage") in different languages.
I'll trust actual reported lost luggage data, I don't know what the social media robot thing is doing.
EDIT: Too many number are divisible by 461...
The US DOT requires airlines to submit reports on mishandled luggage.
One such is available here; https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2024-05/M... Edit: see page 39
Point to point carriers such as Allegiant and Spirit typically do much better than carriers that operate a connection like Delta and United.
Since they are souring their data from people on social media I suspect the chance that someone complains about missing a bag varies more than the amount of missing bags.
I don't know if that's a typo of 'sourcing', 'scouring' or you meant souring, but all work in this case.
Friends flew Split -> London -> SFO on British Airways. Apparently the day they left a large percentage of luggage that transited the BA terminal in Heathrow had issues. One bag was lost (returned to the US) for about 5 days, the other is still location unknown.
A big problem is that gate people and checkin people will suddenly claim "the flight is full" (some times it is) and try and force people to pack bags. When tasked with such, people don't always think about possible valuables in their bags and rebalance accordingly.
In the case of our friends. Their "carry on" was not much bigger than a backpack. The flight was not full. The recovered bag, thankfully, had jewelry and other items the wife of the couple didn't think about when agreeing to check the bag.
I'm surprised to see Swiss so up there.
US Airlines are probably also less often going to lose luggage since it's typically (from my experience at least) impossible to check through luggage into a domestic connection.
Where 460.85 comes from is unsure, but I guess a calibration factor based on some more reputable data set.
Edit: They don't show up when I copy paste them to a comment.