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I still don’t really know what DevOps is. I have noticed, however, that over the last 20 years more and more power and flexibility has been taken away from me.

I used to have passwords for everything and could deploy things and get things done on a dime, now there are layers of bureaucracy and middle fingers everywhere I turn.

Is that DevOps?

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Who knows! Just like “SRE” you really need to know what questions to ask before you accept any position in these orgs

I briefly worked at a place where the SREs were responsible for replacing displays on the factory floor and the devops engineers took rotations approving terraform PRs all day long.

As it turns out, a lot of orgs just rebrand their job postings with whatever fancy industry term gets applicants, then they rugpull you into very mundane ops chores

DevOps, in my experience, has often been unfortunately misused to mean "no ops": developers are doing operations, and there is no dedicated ops staff. For some engineers, this works. For others, they are out of their element and it leads to outages and chaos.

That’s compliance, infosec, and arguably, just table stakes for a reasonably mature org. Sure it’s annoying sometimes but unless you enjoy the idea of randos with access to your own complete digital footprint, then everyone ought to see the wisdom in the idea of “robots only, no humans in prod”

Yeah I agree, it's unfortunate that security compliance is often just making things as hard as possible in most organizations. Often times devops get to be the face of that and trust me.. they sure as hell don't want to have to hold hands even more.

YAML over SSH, primarily.

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