How dysfunctional does a company have to be to let this happen?
How dysfunctional does a company have to be to let this happen?
Stuff like this happens when upper management has zero clue about the business they are in. They believe they are in the business of selling certificates, while in reality they are in the business of selling trust. They treat things like the CA/B Forum and the various Root Programs as more like an optional networking event than the combination of judge, jury, and executioner that it actually is - with a completely predictable outcome.
Which means their business continuity planning was bullshit.
The good news is this caused companies in the healthcare space (at least provider, facility, and insurer sides) to start asking more pointed BCP questions to their SaaS vendors.
Surprised no one pointed to the nature of the business as a source of this behavior.
In a non-innovative, compliance-based industry, you make money by cutting costs.
This affects the entire business, as you find managers who are effective at cutting costs and architects/engineers who will work for lower salary.
Multiply that over enough years, and we know where it leads...
>> I see three possible outcomes:
>> 1. The root programs continue to be lenient with Entrust indefinitely. Nothing changes.
>> 2. The root programs continue to be lenient with Entrust for a while, but eventually the mistakes pile up enough that one of the root programs pushes for distrust.
>> 3. The root programs immediately stop being lenient with Entrust. Entrust is forced to make internal changes to remain a CA.
It raises an interesting point about what constitutes a historical pattern of behavior, sufficient for infering future deficiencies reliably enough to take present action.
Here, the motivation seemed to be that (a) enough history had accumulated to estimate Entrust's rate of process improvement & (b) that rate was deemed insufficient. Which seems a decent metric: if perfection is not presently achieved, then remediation progress needs to be seen.
Here's the email their CEO/President sent to everyone that uses them:
Google Chrome announced yesterday that specific public roots used to issue public certificates by Entrust will no longer be trusted by default after October 31, 2024. This decision comes as a disappointment to us as a long-term member of the CA/Browser Forum community.
To address your concerns, there have been no security implications to the events that led to this distrust event, and you can be assured that your certificates are secure. I also want to assure you that Entrust can and will be able to serve your digital certificate needs now and in the future. And, our ability to do this extends beyond the public roots covered in Google’s decision.
Additionally, there is no impact on our private certificate offerings – including our PKI, PKI as a Service, and managed PKI – nor our code signing, digital signing, and email (S/MIME and VMC) offerings.
While the announcement is disappointing, Entrust has been in the public and private digital certificate business for over 25 years and we continue to bring that expertise and capability to your use cases every day. It is our hope that you will allow us to continue to serve your needs and we stand ready to answer any questions you have regarding your ongoing needs.
Sincerely,
Todd Wilkinson President & CEO
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My personal take: I don't see why any of their customers (such as ey.com) would want to split their CA needs across multiple suppliers.
Private certs are not that big a business.
If you asked people from the for-profit CAs about Let's Encrypt before it launched, the impression you'd get was that they're issuing a lot more certificates and this doesn't matter. Millions per day? Ha, we'd barely notice. That was all bluster, they were never doing that.
I think Apple probably had the best shot to turn this into free money. Apple's customers are very willing to pay more than something appears to cost on the basis that it's Apple so it's worth it. I think you'd struggle a lot more to undercut a $10 Apple PKI product with a free offering that's identical because Apple's customers are used to justifying why they spent more money on the same thing with the logo on it, and they are able to be completely irrational about it and it's OK - a brand rep would look unhinged if they violently attack people who point out that it's bullshit, loyal fans will get understanding or even praise.
I actually thought about 10-15 years ago that Apple was about to do this, but they didn't and once Let's Encrypt happens there's no room really. Apple does still make money off some places where they're sole issuer and get to charge arbitrarily for doing nothing, but not like they would if they'd seized the entire Web PKI.
Also roots can be TLD constrained, typically to ccTLD(s).