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Yes, but only if you foolishly walk in to the dealer cold without having already arranged some plan. Also, not all dealers. Just stand up and walk out as soon as they make the crossed lines. Those dealers aren't worth it at all, and there are actually some dealers that don't suck nearly that bad, believe it or not.

I still choose to just do it all by email anyway and then show up only to grab the keys. Works fine. Next time I'm going to go a step further and have them bring the car out to my driveway. They absolutely will, even if it just means having a salesman drive it out.

The four square sheet? Yes they still do it because it's how they manipulate buyers. It's not random, it's very intentional.

Yes, all sorts of nonsense like that still happens.