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My proposed fix is to make speeding ticket funds NOT EVER go to local governments, pass vehicle noise limits comparable to last decade's new vehicles stock (with fat paycheck busting fines), pass every cop a handheld combination laser range finder/parabolic decibel meter/video camera enforcement device/"gun," and make the fines go totally to local government. 3rd time or intentional over-100 decibel should be crusher (with no loan discharge) for the car and five years in the clink for felony disturbing the peace.

No more loud fucklechucks! :^)

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Oh and motorcycles at full rev must be made as quiet as a VW TDI. Thank Harley Davidson and his customers!

Why should speeding ticket funds not go to local governments? Noise may be damaging, but to a much lower degree than a violent death by car crash which speed limits reduce.

Because it causes really bad incentives. Sometimes including making roads more dangerous with speed changes!

Roads are never less safe by reducing the speed, except in the case that the road design didn't also change to accompany the reduction. If you slow down a 60mph road to 20mph you need to signal with the design, that it's not safe to go fast here. Reduce the lanes, width, remove the demarking areas etc.

I don't mean the whole road, I mean segments. The speed changes while driving on it, not compared to what it was months or years ago. And then, yes, not using the design to signal the speed changes. If they're even in charge of that.

Just want to incentivize switching from radar gun to sound gun. Local departments are who principally enforce this, and taking away a reliable speeding revenue source should hunger their budgets up a bit for the noise enforcement. I'm sure laser speed acquisition could be added.

Why the crusher? Just repo it or take all the expensive parts out. Then give that money to schools or use it to fund putting out cameras to automate traffic enforcement

Government run chopshops is what you are suggesting. The incentives are all bad, it would get exploited even if the profit goes to a school, because the middlemen still get paid. Kickbacks to cops getting cars into the workshop.

I don't disagree with the general sentiment mind you. I think tarketing specific cars will do little, given even a regulation following car is still very impactful across a range of issues.

There sounds like a simple fix: have the city run the full stack (including towing). Ideally most cars flowing in would be from automated enforcement.

Regulation will only work with strong enforcement. By taking such aggressive actions, we can also elicit information on shops doing illegal work and have the police shut their businesses down.

I don't like the idea of destroying stuff (except aftermarket noise-making parts). How about sticking the car on a boat and shipping it to some other country and donating it there? No one profits.

got my vote! Except maybe the jail part, but I know you're probably being a little bit hyperbolic

I lived over 15 years in a house on a 2x2 lane. Speeding deaths doubling would cause less social harm than the hundreds of thousands (at least) suffering mental issues from constant vehicle noise. All the opportunity costs.

Yeah that will be popular

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