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More ARM Linux Laptops Are on the Way

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We need more CPU manufacturers not just a Qualcomm monopoly.

Best to look at RISC-V, then.

Proliferation of third party ARM designs is unlikely to ever happen now.

Framework announced the RISC-V laptop just recently, which is really fucking on a raspberry PI-like single board computer on the their chassis.

What I'm personally bothered about is the use of proprietary apps that are already provided for Linux on x86, and frankly no one will bother to build them for RISC-V.

I'm worried that most, if not all, Riscv inplementations are coming from China.

Worried about what exactly?

China, presumably

The CCP isn't known for being trustworthy...

I don't get the use of fucking in your context. Is that a autocorrect issue?

> What I'm personally bothered about is the use of proprietary apps that are already provided for Linux on x86

Frankly apart from gamers it is not very common to use proprietary apps on Linux. I could still count my installed proprietary apps with my fingers if I was a limb amputee.

Gamers choose their hardware based on the games they want to play, not the opposite anyway so they are just not the target market.

> frankly no one will bother to build them for RISC-V.

Welcome to our pain in OpenPOWER world, though at least we have the weight of IBM to encourage some ports, and for the big Power chips emulation is still reasonably practical.

MediaTek is rumored to be planning ARM chips for PC in 2025. We'll see if they bother with Linux support.

MediaTek has been in permanent third place to Qualcomm, and even Samsung's Exynos for a long time. It'll be a miracle for them to produce something even competitive in the PC space.

This is heavily outdated. Dimensity 9300 is ahead of both SNDG3 and A17 in MC benchmarks. The GPU is highly competitive too. It's somewhat laughable to compare it to Exynos :)

Did NVidia give up when the merger/acquisition of ARM was denied?

And Apple, look I get that the MBAs view PC/Notebooks as a non-growth industry, but it is still huge, and Apple may be scraping the barrel on iPhones. Why sit on hardware AND OS that is generally better than everyone elses in the consumer space?

Nvidia still makes cpu cores, but they are only sold on gpu boards

MNT reform recently added support for rockchip

Source with more information: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-on-ARM-is-coming.t...

Doesn’t look promising when Snapdragon X Elite struggles with Fortnite: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40733872

Isn't that proprietary x86 code?

The average Linux user runs code from the distribution's packages, built for the architecture Linux runs on.

"No", Epic spent a lot of money on the mobile gaming market that never came. Its why Epic being booted from the Google and Apple stores was such a huge deal: torpedoed their dreams of monetizing loot crates and other degenerate scams in emerging markets.

Can't tell what build they used in the benchmarks, though.

Fortnite on Windows is an x64 app. There is no ARM version for Windows. It's also not hugely relevant to running Linux on ARM.

What do you mean by "proprierary x86 code"

Fortnite is not opensource, so the code is running through an emulator. Apparently, the quality of the emulators on Windows is severly lacking in comparison to what Apple has done.

As usual.

it's not like gaming via apple's emulators is a speedy, smooth experience, to be fair.

Civ 5 works great on my MacBook ProMax M1- though it burns through battery pretty fast unplugged…

Why? It's not a native Windows on ARM app. Fornite uses kernel level anti-cheat. It's not a surprise it's broken. It'd be broken on x86 Linux under Proton or macOS with Whiskey too.

Linux on ARM at this point is in a more mature state than Windows with most distros having a huge percentage of packages available for ARM.

Right, "struggles" implies bad performance when in reality it simply doesn't work. Windows' translation layer handles user code, but not kernel drivers.

Hard disagree.

Galaxy s24 (a phone) can run fallout 4.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-S24-Ultra-runs-...

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