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Cloudflare Connectivity Issues in Eastern US and Central Europe

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That's a lot of website that are now down... I find it impressive how terrible bigger services that are supposedly "redundant" are at reliability because of all the added complexity.

It happens... It's happened with S3, other AWS, Azure, GCP, and a number of other systems over the years. Seems to happen a couple times a year between them all.

That said, on self-hosting I've had outages that were self-inflicted more often than with cloud pipelines and CI/CD flows to production... in the end, it's probably a wash or favors cloud all the same. Even if it's more generally felt from cloud providers all at once.

It’s just incentives:

Only your site is down, for the first time this year? You must suck at reliability!

Your site is down for the third time this year because of a Cloudflare or AWS outage, together with hundreds of others? Force majeure, can’t be helped.

Seems to affected Apple Private Relay as well, really slow download (kb/s) and timeouts

I'm in Northern Germany, HN and Github are the only sites working for me at the moment. All websites behind cloudflare return a 502 :(

Sounds like I can go about my day normally then!

Gotta love centralization

Blame the assholes who DDOS and the hardware/software vendors who enable them by selling insecure computing devices.

If you are able to build a competing product that can offer what cloudflare does at the scale that it does I promise there is billions of dollars in it for you.

Just because it’s hard to make a competitor doesn’t mean that it’s good that there isn’t one.

I'm really unsure what you are trying to say. Is there someone doing what cloudflare is doing now? I do not think so. Until that day, this will be how it is. It's very silly to complain about "centralization" when there is really not an alternative to what cloudflare provides.

Also Northern Germany, but for me everything (including my Cloudflare Pages site) still works. Odd.

Why is this level of centralization accepted? Many European governments have also started using Cloudflare after suffering DDoS attacks following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and European sanctions on Russia.

Kind of sounds like you answered your own question there.

Because there's DDOS attacks everyone should use the same platform and give them control of the internet?

No, because it's complicated to run, and difficult to the point of impossible for a normal small amount of servers to withstand a DDOS. Why do we get our electricity from the power company, even though there are occasionally outages? We could just all get generators and battery-backed solar, but that would be expensive and hard to maintain. The scale of AWS, Cloudflare, Akamai, etc. make them less bad at it that the average company that needs a website. It's the same reason we don't all have our own mailservers.

It would be nice to have a choice, but most of their competition is either priced completely out of the reach of most people, or PAYG with unbounded spending so you can get hit with an enormous bill out of nowhere, which you don't have to worry about with Cloudflare. AWS or Azure or Google could make their pricing structures as approachable as CFs if they wanted to, and peel off many of CFs small-to-medium scale customers, but evidently none of them want to even try. They only care about scoring whales.

ugh, this again. Honestly you should be able to answer your own question at this point. At least say something original like how a small-time developer can get a planet wide delivery network, DDoS mitigation, and regional traffic routing without relying on something like Cloudflare.

Because being down when nobody else is will be seen as your lack of preparedness, and being down together with everybody else doesn’t look half bad in comparison.

Heh, right when this started, Windows 11 started freaking out and blacking out my screen every 3s or so. Had to reboot to fix it!

Definitely possible it wasn't this outage, but....

I noticed my website has been timing out randomly, and checking Apache server-status page I don't see the requests that are in flight.

At first when I noticed timeouts and slow response, I assumed it was due to my connection or my server. However, after checking on apache, it seems some requests aren't going through at all.

I checked the CF status page at the time, there wasn't this notice, but now there is. I hope this gets resolved soon.

I had to change my DNS from Cloudflare to Google last night somewhere around midnight Eastern because everything but telegram stopped working, presuming that Telegram must use an IP or something for its endpoints.

Wonder if it's related?

West coast is affected as well

From the UK my requests appear to be hitting Cloudflare in Singapore.

They've got planned changes in Sydney/Toyko ongoing, so could be fat finger moment with routing.

darn, i wish this script had each location resolve it's own dns, that way could gain a glimpse of global external dns cloudflare querying issues if you mtr a name that uses CF...

https://mtr.ping.pe/

In Asia there were lot of timeout errors and slowness during the past 7 days.

My website (kechlibar.net) is experiencing the problem as well.

Seems to load fine for me from London at least.

It seems to be intermittent. I was able to access my site through a VPN, then not for 10 minutes, then sometimes yes, sometimes no.

My Cloudflare Pages site has gone down completely, anyone else?

Mine are fine.

Mine are offline as well (502 Bad Gateway). I'm in one of the affected regions, Europe West.

Ah yes, Cloudflare throwing half the internet offline for hours with one bad config.

It's even funnier the 5th, er 6th time? Maybe 7th?

Hey now. I'm sure Cloudflare can deliver 502 Bad Gateway pages with less latency than any other cloud provider. ;)

Yep I get the 502 Bad Gateway and sometimes the standard Cloudflare error page.

I love how the Cloudflare error page says "Cloudflare is working" and it's my website causing the problem.. even though it's Cloudflare pages haha

Mine is ok, west-Europe

Having lots of random issues with gcp today as well

github in india is affected.

I don't think github is using cloudflare.

I think Github pages (published sites) are using Cloudflare.

edit: My mistake, I seem to have misremembered an article on using GH Pages with Cloudflare (circa 2016).

Nope, Github Pages runs on Fastly. You can see it in the HTTP headers.

So this is why our JIRA won't load for me to pick up a ticket... lol

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