for professional content creators, that is exactly the biggest problem. That's why the artist community is getting a huge brunt of the pushback. You don't want your content production tools like the Adobe suite to retroactively say "yeah, by the way we are scanning your content as its produced and using that to make more money".
Even if you as a person don't mind, that's a huge NDA breach for a companyu. You don't want AI training to produce assets similar to the in-production media that isn't even out yet. It'd be a huge leak at best and a DOA at worst. And I'm sure you've seen the year+ of debate on copyright issues.
I would be ok with that tweet being findable through search, but if a model is trained on the information and starts spitting out that I’m a cat hater period (without context), then that’s a different thing.
Also, there is an expectation of privacy on platforms like FB or Insta, because the posts require at least login to be read. Because of that people may be posting things that they expect only their friends to read, and friends of friends - not to become a part of a world knowledge canon.
For me personally - on platforms like HN and Reddit, I have no issue with models getting trained on. Fb/insta I treat as an extended group chat and out of limits for cralwers and ml datasets.
By the way, not everything is about money. Convincing people it is, is even a better trick than the devil convincing people he doesn't exist (that is assuming one believes in such things, and then considers the devil to be evil instead of the people ending up in hell, but I digress).
That bog tech gets away with, is not necessarily because it is legal, but rather that people don't care, law makers only start to care and even if people would care, it is nigh impossible to successfully litigate.
None of the above is written in stone, nor should it stop us from doing something about it.
The way I understand it is, the laws are made to cover cases of LLMs being trained on work of authors and artists who normally make a living from the content they create such as articles, books, music, images, videos, etc. whose work is normally copyrighted but LLMs don't give a shit and can just scrape and "learn" your content, style and patterns and then regurgitate it with slight alterations without the original authors getting paid.
It's no secret that some LLMs have been trained on pirated books off libgen.
In Poland we have a whole catalogue of voided agreement paragraphs, that gets updated regularly. It’s a safety mechanism against companies exploiting the legal system to push people into signing things that are considered unfavourable to them - https://uokik.gov.pl/niedozwolone-klauzule
We’ve had banks for example that had bad terms (or trading platforms), and then government step in and make such terms void.
The reasoning is that a consumer/user should expect fair treatment when agreeing to ToS, without spending money on legal advice before clicking “I agree”.
That is, each legally binging copyright assignment needs an enumeration of fields, like radio, tv, streaming and so on, and when a new field appears the copyright belongs to the original author by default. And statements like “in all fields current and future” are not legally binding.
There is no such thing as “people signed copyright to Meta so Meta can use it in whatever fashion”.
You can read an exercept of Meta’s ToS here - these ToS do not allow them to train models based on the content people publish. https://www.quora.com/When-I-post-a-photo-on-Facebook-or-Ins...
I don't really care about the money but as a society we should care a lot about such a blatant heist of personal effort. For many their words online are their works of the day, it's not at all fair for a company to take that and use it, and even more insidious that it will be used to replace the people who created those works.
That's what the fuss is about I guess, we are working out the ethics our societies will accept on a pioneering front of technology. I don't think Facebook gets away on the letter of the law this time, they will need to adjust to new regulations as we decide on what's ethical.