A list of search engines I haven't known before:
One of the largest Western world indexes outside of Bing/Google, own crawler/ranking and privacy friendly.
But I guess "EU/EFTA Alternatives" is not as snappy.
Europe is a political concept more than it is a geography. Copenhagen and Berlin are tied together by law. Moscow and Berlin are not. Saying “Europe” in this context without reference to politics is meaningless. There is borderless trade within the EU but not with the UK. That is a fundamental difference and just one example.
Europe is quite obviously not a political concept. It's an ancient word that always has and always will mean a geographical area. You're repeating the exact behavior we are openly criticizing in this thread. Misusing language in that way is not only a cheap attempt to manipulate and socially engineer populations, but actively divisive. This thread is a perfect example. Europe hasn't managed to produce many Google competitors, but there's one in the UK and now the people who run it are hurt and upset because they were excluded from a list that claims to represent all of Europe, but in reality the list is some sort of ideological construct defined by political allegiances.
I really don't think self-proclaimed "European citizens" realize how much damage they do to the continent with this approach. It's not just the UK, I live in Switzerland and these games get noticed here too. Many problems are geographical in nature (war, famine, energy, immigration etc). Europe could use as much collaboration as it can get. Alienating some of the continent's most successful countries is the worst way to bring that about.
https://old.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/di5rn3/startpage_i...
Meanwhile the UK has at least one serious option (e.g https://mojeek.com) with it's own index, possibly larger than yandex and privacy friendly - but can't be included because we're not in the right protectionist club.
Well guys, I hope this works for you. I voted against Brexit, but the behaviour of folks on the continent since has been beyond childish and has been making me reconsider the whole EU concept.
> As a business that operates in Europe, it is possible to get a VAT refund for products/services of other European companies.
> European companies also tend to offer payment methods that are commonly used in Europe.
> Within the EU, many laws and framework conditions are set by the EU, which helps to cover a large market without having to consider large country-specific differences.
> It is also easier to enforce your rights against another company located in the EU.
That sounds to me like there are plenty legitimate reasons to exclude the UK from a European (Union)-based list.
They do seem to conflate Europe with the EU, which is unfortunate.
> protectionist club
> beyond childish
Seems like you have already made your mind.
Vanity queries are pretty common for trying new engines.
It's also not a very intuitive query. Maybe you're conditioned to using Google and their vast history of query data that no one else has.
Your point was what?
> It's also not a very intuitive query. Maybe you're conditioned to using Google and their vast history of query data that no one else has.
What would have been an intuitive query?
It's not an intuitive query because it yields about precisely zero results with those two words in a consecutive manner, on Google. You're chucking two spaghetti words together and expecting the search engine to figure out what you mean, which is fine to an extent but OTOH, wth do you mean?
I just tried Mojeek too, and found the results to be reasonable on a selection of programming related queries. I didn't know Mojeek existed, but the design is clean and the results are fast. Ranking isn't as precise as Google but that's OK, the right result is usually still in the top results. The summarize feature worked well and was also very fast. The news is clean, hopefully more trustworthy than Google News. I love the idea of their Substack search, but they should consider unlaunching it and trying again. Although the rendering of the results is a bit off (the date runs into the URL) the bigger issue is that there doesn't seem to be any way to rank by date, and old blog posts are often near the top. That's probably not what's wanted for a blog search.
Honestly I don't know why this site isn't better known, if it's genuinely an independent index which it seems to be. It feels like Google in the early days. I'll definitely try it out and see how viable its ranking is.
It's really sad (but absolutely 100% predictable) to hear that self-proclaimed "Europeans" refuse to mention it. To such people "Europe" is not and never has been about regional alliances or collaboration. It is and was always a social ideology of control. The UK rejected that system and is thus in their minds no longer "European", despite that it's still there and not going anywhere.
The problem is their ranking also.