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Insightful because I don't seem to enjoy Diablo 3 as much. I'm currently pretty bored with the inferno difficulty level. My options is to keep farming gold until I can afford something strong enough on the auction house to carry me further. Really frustrating. Before I could just farm and eventually get myself an awesome piece of gear and use that for progression.

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I think a lot of people dissatisfied with D3 are forgetting they were 12 years younger when Diablo 2 was released. That's a long time for your tastes to change. Everyone who played Diablo 2 as a child is now an adult.

Which is fine, except I still play through D2 every year or so.

Nostalgia is an awful beast. I still play Perfect Dark quite often with my friends, friends who used to play the game as well. When I show it to new friend, they hate it. As well as they should, it's an awful game by todays standards. But we all still love it.

if it was a good game back then, it should still be a good game today. game mechanics really did not change much.

Controls, graphics, and UI are massively improved these days. Let's face it, the late 90's and early 00's were not the heyday of great 3D graphics, and the N64 controller was something you got used to dealing with rather than something you would pick from a lineup.

[1] This looks pretty rough, and coupled with the N64's controller not being ideal for FPS, it's pretty much unplayable if you didn't play back then.

[1] http://i.imgur.com/0QCcu.jpg

Also our understanding of UX and psychology as applied to video games has improved. Developers now hire people who are formally trained in architecture and form and narrative and psychology and flow, instead of kids who were quite handy with computers.

I played D2 with 7 others at Purdue's LAN last year. It was such a big hit we made space for it at every monthly gaming event.

There's also the fact that there appears to be some serious security problems with D3 at the moment. That's the entire reason I've stopped playing since I don't want my characters to get robbed like that.

Which "fact" do you speak of? You can get a free authenticator which (almost) guarantees you will be safe. The only "fact" is that too many people fail to use authenticators and re-use passwords on diablo fan sites.

I PERSONALLY was hacked TWICE with the authenticator in place (via android phone).

I have proof, my tickets were deleted from Battle.net support and my 3 posts were deleted from Battle.Net forums.

The person who hacked me was EVEN on my recently played list (I only play solo and with friends.)

I'm not calling you a liar but Blizzard is.

Here's yet another post from an hour ago: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5592454673?page=9#176

Thanks for the update, here's a link to my FB album with pictoral evidence.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.312830668801514.730...

This was the second time I was hacked, I'm a fairly intelligent programmer, my browser doesn't even run Javascript/flash without a button click from me, I surf intelligently, the password was only used on this D3 account and was changed after the first hacking.

No notification of new login location, nothing. Authenticator was bypassed 100%.

Interestingly enough, I know a few people who got hacked, and all of them use the authenticator...On the other hand, none of the people I know who don't use an authenticator have (yet?) been hacked in D3.

I love that this is downvoted with no response.

Realize that I provided evidence and this post was just FACTS.

#1 I was hacked. #2 Twice. #3 Had authenticator for both. #4 My password is secure. #5 Blizzard's emails/ticket responses insist that it was on my end. #6 They are claiming the same of all people hacked.

I still play Diablo 2, as in, I've played it in the last month.

Diablo 2 is a superior game. I'll continue to play D3, but I'm feeling like my $60 would've been better spent on some Indian food and a copy of Torchlight 2 for $20.

Says the guy who probably has 60+ hours in the game and "will continue to play it". How much do you think your $60 is worth exactly?

If he still plays diablo 2, he's used to games being obscenely cheap per hour of play. As is, 1000 hours for 50 dollars.

Also, he said exactly how much he thinks his $60 is worth in very specific terms: all the Indian food he can buy for $40 and Torchlight 2.

I've played Diablo 2 for longer than Windows XP has graced this planet. I've purchased and re-purchased it approximately 5 or 6 times, at varying prices. I'll probably continue to play it with my friends for the next couple years until a game finally topples it.

I'll probably give up Diablo 3 by year's end.

Putting aside any attempts to put a 'price' per hour of enjoyment, that is pathetic.

Blizzard should be embarrassed by Diablo 3, they've destroyed the franchise for me as I was worried they would.

I can't trust them to make another game like Diablo or Diablo 2 again. I have to assume that the disintegration of Blizzard North has ruined them.

The consequences here are more serious than my wasted $60. It's about the end of an entertainment dynasty.

"Blizzard should be embarrassed by Diablo 3"

They sold like 6.5 million copies. I really don't think they care at this stage.

Profit and art are orthogonal. shrug

I blame nobody for prioritizing money, I'm just saying that it's unlikely they'll have me as a customer again.

Personally I blame for prioritizing money.

So let me get this straight. You have been playing Diablo III and will likely continue to play it through the end of the year. This is a game Blizzard should be "ashamed" of? A game that you will play for months on end? How many other games out there provide that amount of playtime? If it is so bad why are you playing it at all? You're ridiculous.

It's really not my problem that you don't understand video games or Diablo players.

Well, based on his comment above - its obvious that D2 has provide play time beyond the 12 years till its successor.

Its successor in turn can't promise 1 year.

The game is fine as it is - you pay more $$ to get less value from other things in life.

Yet, its not in the same league (at this patch juncture) as D2, its ageing predecessor. Which is what the OP is referring to as shameful.

I seem to require translators on HN a lot.

Thank you for explaining.

A lot of people dissatisfied with D3 are also satisfied with StarCraft 2, which had a 12 year delay from its predecessor.

Tastes change, but I don't think that's the primary issue at play here.

Starcraft II was one of the best reproductions in a successor, IMO.

But I play them both significantly less, but frankly, I've changed more over those 12 years then Starcraft, seems to be a more likely culprit.

Not all tastes change the same amount between childhood and adulthood.

Well I think it depends.

Starcraft 2 has improved it's e-sports appeal which I credit mostly to the community but it suffers from the lack of variety in strategy and the dumbing down/nerfing of a lot of micro. HotS will likely shift add more strategies alongside future patches that tweak the balance, but I think it's still about a year or two before gamers are truly satisfied with the state of the game. Kind of like what Starcraft 1 went through.

Look at Dota 2. It's going to blow Starcraft 2 our of the water with regards to eSports, probably everywhere but Korea.

Naw man. I played D2 like just months ago and it was still more addictive than D3 at the end game. There's a different feeling to it. The reward mechanism is unique and better imo.

If you've made it to Inferno, doesn't that imply you've enjoyed ~40+ hours of Diablo 3? It's some very cheap entertainment once the hours count gets near the dollar cost.

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