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Comment by shmeeed | Hacker News Reader

You are not alone.

And the day some manufacturer's database with 1.8 billion sets of facial data is going to get hacked and exposed, I'll feel pretty smug about it.

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Except for the fact that Face ID is completely on device in the secure enclave and not even Apple can access the data stored there soooooo…..

That's sure cool for Face ID. Now all that's missing is the same level of faith in all the rest.

Who has ~1.8 billion centrally stored faces?

Some retailers are probably not far off.

Facebook

Indian government does. Fortunately not face scans. But pictures, retinal scan and fingerprints.

Does that mean you're ok with Face ID?

Storing the biometric data securely in the digital enclave only covers half the problem. The other half is in the form of falsifying said biometrics to gain access to a device, or physically forcing the actual person to unlock it against their will. With keys that are only stored in my mind, I have the ability to consciously decide that access should or should not be granted.

Studies have shown that amongst human subjects there's a really strong correlation between an economic agent having a gun pointed by someone else at their heads and conciously making choices that posit a positive utility increase for the ones holding the gun.

Maybe so, but it's still their choice in that instance. Some data is with dying to protect.

most govt implementing face identification is NOT on device.

all the on-device stuff was just to ease the tech literati who probably is still 12 years away from being impacted by the actual tech doing the damage, since those are for the poor and foreigners first

So long as Apple can change the software on the device they can get access to the Face ID data, or someone who forces them to do it can.

I don’t know for other brands but for FaceID the biometric data literally never leave the device…

"Scan complete. Smug look on face detected."

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