I'll agree with you that the Polievre / Conservative Party's anti-Trudeau astroturfing campaign has been extremely successful. You can see evidence of it all over the comments here.

> The average working class Canadian won't see that, and a PP gov't will just gut or turf those programmes immediately.

Precisely. I think what really grates on people is that the policies pursued are so anti-working class interests while being patronized to from cabinet about it all the time.

This is why despite being libertarian I manage to maintain active friendships with lefties - it is the self serving provably corrupt we cannot stand. I think both of us tend to assume the other leads to an even worse scenario.

Ideologically, I'm far far to the left of Mulcair but could plainly see the guy was an extremely competent parliamentarian and debater and organizer. He should have put up a struggle to stay as leader. He would have held Trudeau to account and kept some integrity for the party. The people who ran his "Smilin' Tom" campaign should have been fired.

Huge mis-steps during COVID and after by the NDP. They've completely lost their bearing as a party for working people people.