The punishment being fines is criminal in and of itself.
Everyone involved needs to be locked away for a long, long time, not have to pay pennies as "punishment"
Everyone involved needs to be locked away for a long, long time, not have to pay pennies as "punishment"
US is an evil empire.
“ (III): Convention relative to the Opening of Hostilities[26][27] This convention sets out the accepted procedure for a state making a declaration of war. It provides the basis on which, in international law, war reparations may be demanded.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_Conventions_of_1899_an...
I can only guess the wikipedia article is only a summary and the real convention could be around who is to blame for the war and other factors. Otherwise that's just so ridiculous that it actually encourages declaring wars on countries!
"Following a civil case brought by eight Colombian families whose relatives were killed by the AUC, Chiquita has been ordered to pay $38.3m (£30m) in damages to the families."
A civil lawsuit doesn't need to be anything like a speeding ticket from a legal point of view, from a normal person's point of view they can both result in a "you did something wrong, now you have to pay an amount set by the legal system".
I'm glad that some victims are getting some recompense, but frankly, justice has not really been served.
Seems like you might be as confused as they are!
> The people you're complaining about don't really care whether or not it's government or civil action.
They do, because it's always in the context of how the "gov't" levied a fine on some business, when it was actually a civil suit and there's no governmental action at all.
> They care that these people are getting away with murder and mass extortion and the only penalty they face is a meager chunk of the profits.
That's not what I'm talking about!
You'd be wrong, then.
>I'll leave it there and agree to disagree, as you've been ignoring the points made by both of us who replied to you.
Well you both keep making up scenarios that aren't what I'm talking about.
Okay, but when people are complaining about fines in this cases and similar cases, that is what they're talking about.
You can take a fine detail and make an argument out of it, but it's not a point anyone else cares about.
But this is a civil case so they can't get more than money.
Honest what is disgusting is the chump change they are getting 38 mil only for the insane amount of profit the company gained.
If i make a crime, i go to jail. If a company does it, it gets a pat on a back and an insignificant fine. (exceptions - Volkwagen - apply).
We could go that way, but it would be a serious change of rules and create its own perverse incentives.
The US needs certain things from Russia: it's not that all trade has been sanctioned. Just trade that does not have enough lobby power to protect it.