Author Clock: a novel way to tell time
authorclock.com
authorclock.com
[1] https://techni.gallery/literaire-klok-trekt-internationaal-a... [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17688324 [3] https://literature-clock.jenevoldsen.com/
It is based upon a Kindle project [1] and initially I just used the quote library from that project (which is based on a crowd-sourced collection of quotes by The Guardian [2]).
Later, a lot of quotes have been added by kind strangers through GitHub issues and pull-requests [3].
[1] https://www.instructables.com/Literary-Clock-Made-From-E-rea...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2014/jun/26/lite...
[3] https://github.com/JohannesNE/literature-clock/blob/master/l...
I built a wifi alarm clock with OTA updates [1], which is handy when I find yet another bug in processing iCal or assumption I've made about what data will actually be in the iCal files. :/ Although, at this point, I've figured out what kinds of things don't actually work and avoid them instead of fixing the bugs, because there's two of these in the wild and I think the person I sent the second one to gave up on it.
I too had trouble with iCal. I don't see why I did - the format is simple enough. But making and sending iCal files to people with iPhones and having them parse it is harder than it should have been.
Recurrence relations are tricky.
Timezones are tricky and many implementations don't include them or don't read the included zones.
DST changes are really tricky, and some times that exist can't be represented as local times.
“Target closes in 45 minutes and they still have that great sale on TVs.”
I said "but didn't we get you a digital picture frame?" and she said "this one can play music. sometimes I use that feature."
Really felt dystopian. She didn't mind at all. Although she appreciated when I spent 15 minutes digging in the settings and turning off every category of slideshow _except_ for pictures from her albums.
I come to Hacker News for interesting, curiosity-satisfying content. Not meaningless drivel like this that belongs on Reddit.
If you point this out , you may be thought of naive or out of touch.
They add 0 quality to the discussion but are easy to upvote.
Looking at the Author clock, they do have an option to update the device manually, which is nice, so it can operate without needing WIFI.
It's a valid concern. My old smart alarm clock would automatically activate bluetooth every time the alarm sounded, and try to connect to the companion app on my phone. It did this even if I didn't use the app, no way to stop it. I suspect the makers of the clock desperately wanted telemetry, and what better way than to ping their app every morning.
So yeah...that will probably happen.
Unless you know something about the people behind this that you’re not sharing, your comment is just informationless nihilism.
I think the right level of cynicism would be:
They will be bought by a shareholder-beholden-competitor and shut down.
Or, this is their v1 product. Their v2 product will aggressively market a subscription service at you.
At any moment no but over time statistically likelihood is high.
It sat next to me while I worked, and I found the transitions from one time to another (like 1:01 -> 1:02) to be distracting. So I changed the transition to be a gradual fade and it helped.
Now that I think about it, I remember getting distracted years ago at a home with a grandfather clock. A quiet room except for the ticking. Definitely accentuated boredom (which with smartphones, we never have anymore)
This product, from the ad copy, is targeted at fans of writing. People sitting on the bleachers, not the ones on the court.
So from the right angle, the gift reads as saying "I don't take you seriously - you're a wannabe".
> Shop: $199.00 USD
Funny how products that claim a cause on the side are always 5 times the price they should be.
ps. i am not suggesting that the author clock is externality-free. it probably is not. nor am i forgetting that it will be purchased mostly by people on the upside of that inequality.
Instead of segmenting/targeting the high-income market by product quality, they target by emotional manipulation claiming good causes. (i.e. higher-priced product that does not have to be higher quality).
I was contrasting "stuff associated with causes costs more than it should" with "a lot of stuff costs less than it should because the cost ignores externalities"
Another product like this for me is the Manta Sleep Pro Mask. It’s $80, but the best I’ve found, so I buy it anyways. I’m mildly annoyed and also feel like they’re taking advantage of me on price and will switch as soon as there’s an alternative at least as good for less…but when that happens, they’ll probably lower their price, which is what typically happens as sectors and products mature due to competition.
Profit maximization curves are interesting, and I think explain things like how convenience stores exist with much lower volume compared to grocery stores. Eg XYZ food costs 90 cents and the grocery store sells it for $1, yielding profit of 10% whereas a convenience store sells it for $1.50, just a 50% increase in price for the consumer (for the convenience), but the profit is 6x that for the grocery store, so they only need to sell approx 1/6 to make the same profit.
In the case of the author clock. If COGS is $50, profit is $150ish. If they sold for $100, they’d have to sell 3x as many to make the same profit. Given that it’s a niche product for readers (smaller population and typically more educated and wealthier), I think they care less about the price. Doesn’t seem that unreasonable to me.
But I’m coming to the conclusion —more powerfully in the recent few years— that not only is this an issue that should be debated, but the pursuit of profit above all else is responsible to a greater or lesser degree for many of the ills that we see and suffer in our societies. And from my European perspective, I believe that it is responsible for America (its culture, way of life, the ‘American way’) fracturing and falling apart.
So they’ll close, and that’s another empty shop front. God knows if anyone will rent it, ever again. There are plenty more empty shops to choose from.
This is in the centre of Canberra. The capital of Australia.
And why? Because whomever owns the shop owns it as an ‘investment’. So the lovely lady who runs (ran) it needs to not only run a profitable restaurant — pay staff, suppliers, taxes, insurance, take a wage — but she also has to make a profit for the guy who owns the shop.
Because his ‘business’ is owning a shop. So he (I’m sorry, I’m just assuming it’s a dude) needs to turn a profit. For owning a building.
So she’ll close.
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So restaurants are fucked. They’re all closing. At what point do we think, restaurants are the fabric of society. Cities need restaurants. It’s what makes a city a city. So when do we realise that imposing a condition on a restaurant that not only must they make a profit, but they must make a profit for the owner of the building, who does fucking nothing, is ridiculous?
Anyway. I know this is a rant. I just had dinner at a popular restaurant with amazing food with a wonderful owner that’s closing tomorrow so that the landlord can own an empty space. I’m bitter and sad.
Thanks for listening.
I wonder if more and more people come to the same conclusion, but are not able to voice their opinions loud enough. I also wonder what needs to be done so that the "maximize profit" mantra gets away.
I think one of the jobs of gov't is good regulation, which is hard. And once the rules have been set, maximizing profits within that box of regulation seems good, yea? Capitalism is reasonably good at allocating resources in many cases.
We had a live Christmas tree another year that is still growing in the yard too.
Save your money from over-priced clocks, plant a tree yourself and enjoy it for a long time.
They plant a seedling.
This means (a) it may not survive to be a tree, but that's not the mental image they want you to have and (b) it might be in a tree farm, which means it's not a ecosystem-tree but a product to be harvested and processed (with fossile fuels). So, you know, it's more likely about giving you the warm-fuzzies than any particular concern for the environment.
That said, kudos to them for making the device easy to disassemble and repair. That in itself is a laudable thing.
> An ever-expanding library > What a vision that is. We are continuously adding new quotes to Author Clock. Once it's connected to your WiFi they'll simply begin to... apparate.
The device's firmware is easily available via their website - the Mac Installer contains a pair of 9MB binaries (in addition to 200MB of Electron), which seems to just be an unencrypted ESP32 blob. Running `strings` on the blob gives plenty of human-readable stuff (including entire html pages), but nothing resembling quotes. Maybe they are compressed in some way?
Assuming 140 characters per quote, the entire 13000-entry quote database should fit uncompressed in about 2MB, so who knows.
https://github.com/JohannesNE/literature-clock/blob/master/l...
Even if you check the time a lot - I guess I probably check the time 3 or 4 times every day between 9:20 and my regular 9:30am meeting - it'll probably be ~15 days before I hot a duplicate quote. That feels like "enough" to me?
And note that the number will go up rapidly from whenever the first expected collision is: only 10 quotes per minute means you're going to see a lot of duplicates after a few hundred days.
One would have to make a full audit to be entirely sure that no more recent literature has crept in.
That said, I'm sure if an author or publisher of a book that's still within copyright contacted Author Clock and asked them to remove their quotes from the database they probably would, because it just wouldn't be a thing worth fighting about.
A Kindle is ~$80, and the Paperwhite without ads is $180.
A cheap Android tablet is ~$70 without an eInk display.
Just a 4 or 5 inch eInk display would cost me ~$70 or so.
This is a finished product, in a gorgeous timber case (if you like that sort of thing) with a beautiful knurled knob. And a bunch of custom written software and a collected database of quotes.
I reckon it'd sell - at least to the right crowd - at 4-5 times that price.
Those of use who are capable of making their own probably wouldn't buy one anyway - but as a high end gift or executive toy, I could see them selling these at $700 or $800.
(And yeah, I'm considering grabbing a 2nd hand Kindle and firing up my CNC mill or laser cutter to make a case for it, but people like me are very much in the 0.1% or 0.01% of all the people who'd like to own one of these.)
I do have a bid in on a spare Kindle and plan to make my own though. I really like the _idea_ of it.
Not that it isn't expensive for what it does. Just that it probably isn't cheap to make.
Retail price will be about 5x BoM cost, or about 3x overall cost of goods, though of course it can vary wildly depending on volume and market.
HP famously aimed for a markup of pi (3.14x cost, ie gross margin > 60%), or e (2.71..) if they wanted to be especially competitive.
I’m at a loss as to why they’d hard-code an IP address instead of pulling a DHCP lease. I suppose they chose that subnet with the thought that it isn’t in use for most people, but it would in fact collide with a VLAN on my network.
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/647e0971bc9b144cf71693a5/...
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/647e0971bc9b144cf71693a5/...
I wish they would add hyphens and justify the text.
This particular one on the Author Clock site is from monto.io > social-proof.
I'll admit, it's cute. For someone well-read this is a pretty charming gift. Visually pleasant and nicely constructed.
It would be powered by USB C, have a small Linux system installed, and some easy way to display stuff on the screen. In a nice case.
https://thepihut.com/products/4-26-e-paper-display-hat-800x4...
But the aesthetic and the e-ink screen is really nice.
Although, $200 for a clock is probably more than what I would spend. I understand e-ink are not cheap unfortunatly.
It's nice, but interferes with her BlueTooth mouse and keyboard, so rather than the envisioned usage at her desk it migrated to the living room.
The new mode of updating less often greatly reduces the need to charge.
Wi-Fi radio firmware bug? Presumably this uses something like an ESP32.
I'll keep an eye out for a firmware update which addresses this.
I made something like that about fifteen years ago. It displayed "A little after two", "A quarter past three", and such. It wasn't an e-ink device; the display was vacuum-fluorescent. So it needed a power cable to a wall wart. I wanted to build one that would run for a year on a battery, like an ordinary clock, but e-ink displays were too costly back then.
The idea is from an old New Yorker cartoon, where someone is looking in the window of a clock store, and sees a long, narrow clock displaying "A little after three".
Today, of course, it has to be "cloud enabled".
"Long-life battery: Author Clock lasts over a week between charges and comes with its own USB-C cable. Depending on your settings it can last for several months."
I have my own idea for an e-ink clockface, and something like this could save me some hardware prototyping (at a steep price!) Realistically I'm probably better off repurposing a kindle.
For me, it is very disappointing.
The screen is _very_ small and most people won't be able to read this from a shelf. The only place this is appropriate is next to you on your work desk, but personally, I prefer a desk free from decoration.
It takes a lot of effort to read a quote, and they're usually disappointing. The quotes are banal without context. It is a thrill when you recognize a quote from a book you know, but it rarely happens.
The wood is thin and plasticky, the brass knob is too sharp-edged and feels unfinished. There's a gap all around the bezel. It runs out of charge quickly, the interface is much slower than is comfortable.
I'm really sad to say, I can't think of anything good about it. I accidentally bought two, and decided not to cancel the second so I could offer it as a prize in my club. But now I won't inflict that disappointment on someone else, and it is still in the box.
The whole point of this product is that you get a device whose hardware is tailor made (e-ink, no other distractions, long time between charges, etc.) for this purpose.
$199 seems expensive, but when an EInk screen is around $80 and it has a carved oak case and brass fixtures and a nice finish, it seems worthy of the price.
But what about all of the great quotes that will occur from 12a to 6a when I'm asleep? I would have to set it to random wrong times on different days to read all of them!
I think they could open the firmware and make plenty of sales from tinkerers, and 'secondary tinkerers' ie people buying the clock to use a particular mod to show the tides, moon phase, stock quotes, or whatever.
I can build this myself, thanks for the idea!
There is a high chance that the quote would disappear before you finish reading.
Even ignoring these flaws the item seems significantly overpriced.
How long does it take to read a line or four of text? Especially when the bit you're actually after is highlighted in bold?
(And to me, it looks underpriced, unless they've already got orders or investment for production runs in the 10,000s. I've done a hardware startup. Hardware is _hard_. Amazon manage to sell Kindles for ~$80 building them at Amazon volumes, and almost certainly subsidising them with expected future ebook sales. I'd be very very surprised if they'd even be breaking even on manufacturing if they're building those in runs of ~1000)
[1]: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1468882678/led-word-desk-clock-...
[2]: https://www.amazon.com/live/video/08cccf8215454ac799a2906811...