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This is inevitably going to devolve into a flame war. But I'll try to give some interesting references.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-un-disagree...

Israel claims the UNRWA is not counting aid trucks going into Gaza from Israel resulting in a significant undercount of aid provided to Palestinian civilians during the war.

Another view from the Israeli side:

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syns3cuk0

"Hamas slashes food prices as Gaza flooded with humanitarian aid"

And another perspective on the problems on the ground (people stealing and reselling food): https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/03/15/i...

No doubt the intense war fought with the presence of a large civilian population has an impact on the population.

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These articles are all from 3 or 4 months ago.

Which was prior to Israel's Rafah invasion.

The aid is tracked from the Israeli perspective here: https://govextra.gov.il/cogat/humanitarian-efforts/home/

This is a more recent news story from Israel:

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/r1itpzvrc

"The lie behind claims Israel is 'starving Gaza': UN data on Israeli aid to strip is unreliable"

Israeli perspective for sure.

Another by the way is there are active cases against the Israel government before the Israeli Supereme court on this matter.

Yet another by the way is that it's worth mentioning Egypt refused to let aid through the Rafah border crossing once Israel took the Palestinian side of it just because it refused to deal with Israel on this matter.

UNRWA has a pretty good breakdown of how much aid reaches IDPs here, it goes into better detail than the Israeli government site on this matter: https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-repo...

The ynetnews article you linked is one sentence with a link leading back to itself.

The link works for me. Maybe something with your browser?

I'll copy paste the beginning: "Israeli officials from the Coordination of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT), led by Maj. Gen. Ghasan Alyan, present the extent of aid being delivered to the Gaza Strip in daily reports distributed to government offices and other bodies around the world. "

"According to findings presented by UNRWA and the UN, the amount of aid counted by the organizations since the outbreak of the war and until June 5 totals 26,684 aid trucks entering Gaza. COGAT's records show 34,199 trucks. An in-depth investigation conducted by the COGAT's Humanitarian Information Center, headed by Lt. Col. (res.) Or Elrom, reveals the reasons behind the data discrepancies and significant differences regarding the extent of aid entering Gaza."

We're not going to be able to litigate this here. Israel's position is more or less that UNRWA is collaborating with Hamas to the point of active participation in the Oct 7th attacks. I think what is worth saying though is there are at least two versions of the story about how much aid is going into Gaza. It's also worth saying (EDIT: some of) the Israeli disclosures are part of a Supreme Court hearing into this so if someone in Israel is lying they're doing that under risk of perjury. The US is also keeping a close eye on Israel's promise to get more aid into Gaza.

EDIT: btw the original comments are now dead which is probably the right way for this thread to go.

>Yet another by the way is that it's worth mentioning Egypt refused to let aid through the Rafah border crossing once Israel took the Palestinian side of it just because it refused to deal with Israel on this matter.

Has the current Regime cooperated with any country or organisation in a truthful and transparent manner? Besides Gaza is on the Mediterranean coast, with a port that is much older than the State of Israel. It didn't need anyone else's support, if there was not a complete blockade for two decades. Even in raging war, humanitarian assistance has been delivered in geographical points that are hard to reach.

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