The Death of the Dining Room
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Current fashion is everyone hangs around in the kitchen while the final food prep is done, and only then migrates to the dining room to eat. Which is nice and informal, and totally OK for the post-servant era. So does it matter if the dining table is in an open concept setting with the kitchen, or separated by walls and a door? It functions the same either way.
Much more bizarre is the "vestigial living room" - barely enough room for a sofa - still exists but its minuscule size admits that the real living room is now the rear-facing family room. To be clear, my house still has the full (front facing) living room, with the fireplace and all. But I've seen the tiny vestigial living rooms in more modern houses.
When I'm hosting more people, or people I don't know well, I don't want them anywhere near the kitchen. Especially when there are a lot of guests and the kitchen starts to resemble a triage area at a mass casualty event, and when you have to fend off well-meaning people who try to wash the dishes or something else that they don't realize is extremely unhelpful. I need to be on in the kitchen, not sociable. It's work. The kitchen is just for me, my wife, and in extreme cases, close friends who know us well enough to be actually helpful by taking things to the table and replenishing drinks.
The latter situation is much rarer than the former, so I'm glad we have an open kitchen, but I really feel how much better it would be to have a separate room for hosting big events.
I've heard it suggested that the ideal solution would be a closed-off kitchen where you keep all the mess, the simmering pots, the dirty dishes, and the sweat and swearing, and a second open kitchen where you can smile and do the impressive and/or photogenic cooking in front of your guests to show how effortless and organized you are in the kitchen.
EDIT/PS: Space issues are beside the point, IMO — many people living in small spaces have a "dining room" or at least a "dinner table" that is busy with other things the rest of the day (mail, homework, laundry, etc.) and only gets dedicated to meals at mealtime. It's only empty all day if you have a surplus of space.
Old-time kitchens tended to be cramped. I lost track of the number of old-house renovations friends did which involved knocking out a kitchen wall and effectively merging the dining room and kitchen into one "open plan". New construction basically already does that!
A smallish kitchen with a door and a good fan keeps the rest of house warm in winter, and keeps pollutants out of the house.
Nobody wants to be hidden away in a small kitchen these days. So lonely, and completely impractical if you have small kids you need to keep an eye on at the same time.
But yeah if you can keep your kid contained but within eyesight I guess it works. You can always use a camera for the eyesight part, though.
Nowadays, you can just hop onto your group chat(s) and fill everyone in on these things in real time. So, the dinner party became less of a necessity for social interaction; and the actual dinner itself was never the point. With less of a need to hang around for hours on end to catch up, it’s become more efficient to just go to a restaurant, spend an hour or so, and then leave. Nobody is left to clean up, or spend half the day preparing meals.
How did people host before 1990, I wonder?
How do people host in Europe, where the average home size is still relatively modest?
I don't understand the desire for a large bedroom. My parents use the largest "bedroom" in their house to hold their bed.
I use the smallest "bedroom" in my house to hold my bed, because all I do in there is sleep.
The larger "bedrooms" become office and studio spaces, since I spend remarkably more waking hours in these locations compared to where I sleep.
That's good. For sleep health, your sleeping room should ideally be used only for sleeping. Don't work, read, watch TV, etc. in that room. If you work from home or need an office or studio, that should be a separate room if at all possible.
Now it's the opposite.
If I invite someone for a meal I want to know what their preferences but especially what their food allergies and intolerances are so I can make something they'll be able to eat and enjoy. I don't eat meat (I must be a "blue" household then according to parent) so I just eat whatever is there that doesn't have meat in it but if people know I'm a vegetarian and make a meat alternative that's great but not necessary. I'm not making a fuss about it but then again I'm not very confrontational, just isn't worth it. Parent is probably different and seems to know people who aren't like that.
There are entire books about this if you need ideas but the core exercise is not difficult if you already know how to cook.
How would a guest impose their dietary restriction/preference on the host? All they can do is not eat.
Interesting the mods deleted my entirety innocuous parent comment as well.
No, they didn't. Unless by "the mods" you mean "the users of HN". Your comment was flag killed which is a consequence of user actions, not a moderator action. It also wasn't deleted, any logged in user can still see it if they turn on "show dead" in their profile.
I guess the current owners of that house probably just enjoy the large room.
Tons of work, before and after, expensive.
I think that between families getting smaller, a tendency to spend much less time socializing in general, and economic conditions making it cost effective to just take people out rather than cooking for them it's not worth it.
Even my family in the south of Italy were gathering 20/30 people together was common is now limited both in frequency and attendance (few generations that didn't have 3/4 but 1/2 people each shrunk the party considerably).
People complain about modern disposable objects, but they do solve the problem of antiques encumbering ones life.
It would be useful to go through ones life periodically and decide what's become a burden and should be discarded.
Unless your house is very very small and you're inviting a dozen people may not work (hell, neither a classical dining room may though).
But for what you describe, I don't see an issue.