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OpenWorm – creating a virtual organism in a computer

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Submitting this because I saw this on Twitter,

https://x.com/7etsuo/status/1799717207913480604

And then someone else commented on it,

https://x.com/MysteryGuitarM/status/1799905253439221937

> It takes 2GB of RAM and 60GB of storage to simulate ~300 neurons.

> If we scale that linearly (eew) to other organisms:

> Mouse (~75M neurons): 500 TB of RAM // 14,900 TB of storage

> Human (~86B neurons): 570,000 TB of RAM // 17 million TB of storage

Can't wait for 2040 to simulate a human.

NVidia DGX Helios have 4 systems, where each has 144TB of shared memory between the GPUs. Which totals to 576TB, just enough to simulate the mouse. I wonder what kind of latencies are acceptable for simulating a mouse.

Can you run 10 of them concurre ntly and equip them with various ridiculous weapons in a turn based match?

Openliero?

Liero was realtime.

Maybe it's not the case, but I've been suspecting that at this point the worm, and even much more complex organism simulations can work well if enough work and compute is put on it, the development has just stalled and isn't especially well funded. This is only based on me quickly checking a while back how many commits they get, and how many new approaches are even tried and it didnt seem to be so much anymore.

I'm rooting for them though, it's a really cool project.

We have enough compute to simulate human brain. The theory and our understanding of human brain neurodynamics is not yet there.

We are close to fully simulating mouse brain though (it basically works, save for a few wrinks)

Who is close to fully simulating a mouse brain?

Apparently "we".

Hello, Sorry for off topic but I wanted to ask if you can tell me how I can make an Account with sigma-aldrich.ch? I saw your comment on the Odin-lab post. I want to order some stuff for my bio lab at home but on every vendor in Switzerland, I have to be a "Unternehmen" for it to work...

It would be great to hear from you, thanks!

I have registered a company and used a business address (but this was a generic company, not related to any biotech activity). If you don't have your own company, you can ask someone who has one to use its name and delivery address probably. Anyway, this was a long time ago. Ordering things from Sigma-Aldrich is extremely expensive. Perhaps there are better ways.

(BTW, besides S-A, there are many smaller companies here where I ordered biotech equipment from, as an individual, without referring to a business. You just need to write an email explaining what you want, and if you are a legitimate researcher, they will probably sell it to you as long as it is not something dangerous).

Thanks so much for the help! Yeah its expensive but I can't find other sites that have all the staff in one place and often they write on the site that they don't sell to a private person. I'll have to tray to make a company, maybe a GmBh would work :D

I dint understand how this works without also creating the ecosystem that worms depend on.

So they finally got it working?

Sadly no: https://github.com/openworm/OpenWorm/milestones

If everyone who submitted this to HN made a commit to the repo we'd have a worm civilization being simulated!

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