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This seems like it's too hard to tell friends/family.

Is the go-to now just 'install firefox'?

i would always tell them to install firefox. this is mostly for developers and tech oriented people who need to keep chrome around

If I need to keep Chrome around for development, I'm not using extensions on it, and I'm only visiting the sites I'm developing.

If you use things like Apple Business Manager and you're not using a Mac, it only works on Chrome.

If Google leaves a boolean switch in Chromium to keep V2 enabled then I assume most if not all of the third party Chromium-derived browsers will just flip it to true by default. That's easy for them to do, the hard part is if Google strips out V2 altogether and leaves the downstream browsers to patch it back in.

There will be a switch available ... but only for a period of time before the functionality is completely removed

And apparently, as per this post, only available to folks who are savvy with the command-line.

No, use a chromium derived browser, like https://github.com/win32ss/supermium.

Or use firefox, it will always support adblockers.

No kidding, thanks but I do use Firefox. As for Chrome, the writing is on the wall.

It's not so shiny any longer.

Even when it's stripped out entirely, it will be easy to add back in. The changes (that adblockers care about) are just a few if statements changing the conditions under which synchronous inspection of web requests are allowed. Manifest V3 still allows them. But only in limited circumstances which are unsuitable for ad blocking.

I consider my non-technical friends/family technically dead. They're lost souls you can't help, like Elizabeth Swan looking down at her father's ghost on the boat. We can't help.

Freedom and privacy are luxuries only available to those nerdy enough to use Linux. The rest are prey/prisoners/peasants to the technofeudal overlords.

After the XUL removal debacle a number of years ago, I can't trust Firefox to offer a suitably flexible and capable extension system over the long run.

While some people will claim that those changes were necessary, the impact was still very negative for the extension developers and users who were affected at the time.

The numerous other user-hostile decisions made by Firefox's developers certainly don't help repair the trust that was lost then.

If this is about trust, Google is by far less trustworthy. Firefox is a flawed option vs. a shitty non-starter option.

why do you think that? mozilla is not without its controversies and google basically owns them

This guy is complaining about "XUL removal". Google is the linchpin and progenitor of surveillance capitalism.

Were the poor decisions made by Mozilla engineers or by Mozilla Corporate Executives? Mozilla has never paid engineers particularly well; in the past engineers joined mostly out of a duty bound to philosophical alignment.

> This seems like it's too hard to tell friends/family.

It's an opportunity for someone to write an "adblock fixer" app for the non-technical market.

I don't understand why people want to teach others how to cope with an abusive relationship, instead of telling them to leave.

You can't just send them a .reg file and tell them to double click on it and hit ok?

Just tell them to use Edge. It's the worse you can do to Google.

It's also the worst you can do to your friends and family.

Why edge instead of Firefox?

Search defaults to Bing?

On macOS it actually uses less resources, and you can use Chrome extensions.

On Mac? Just tell them to use Safari, why install twice the same browser?

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