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This conversation is perpetually marred by this sort of flippant response. No one expects MacOS to work on anything but Apple hardware, but they do expect a random chip on the motherboard they've been using for a several years to work. Proposing they google every chip on their motherboard to see if they can run linux is a failure of linux.

I would hope that you consider that dismissive replies like this do little to encourage anyone to adopt linux, and instead make the community seem elitist and off putting.

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> random chip on the motherboard they've been using for a several years to work.

You can easily check if the motherboard has issues, but this idea you should install on random hardware is a mistake.

Linux is not MacOS, but the best time to swap is when you get new hardware. Run into issues and the old Desktop/Laptop still works and there is no need to stress.

>this idea you should install on random hardware is a mistake.

Why, it works on windows? And it's not 'random hardware' its the hardware they have and use. You should realize this is a failure of linux, not of the user.

> it works on windows

So? Linux is not Windows.

It’s the advice that’s a problem not the user or Linux.

Then when you say, that Linux is not yet prepared for desktop, they will mention that they have been using linux for years and it is ready.

Chromebooks have worked for the general public for years.

Which suggests the question is isn’t if it’s ready but if you’re going to be happy with it.

I completely agree with bishbosh.

However, can I know what is that easy way to check if every single chip of a motherboard will be compatible with linux?

I am honestly asking, because I have not found anything to check hardware.

the same way, if I want to make a computer formed with parts from a store, (not a prebuilt) how can I check all pieces to make sure that it will be compatible?

Thank you.

I haven’t used it in a while but:

https://linux-hardware.org/?view=search

I went there, and put the motherboard that has problems with that chipset. It is an intel dq77mk. I tried with Fedora and had issues. I have check on the webpage and it says that it works. Everything on green.

Whilst it is true that I did not check compatibility of my system. If I had, and would have bought that motherboard based on the website, I would still have the same problem.

Linux is not yet ready. the attitude of the community to say, it is the user problem, does not help to get it ready either.

Intel dq77mk is the chipset not a specific motherboard. Some motherboards with that chipset do work, but you need more information to validate what works and what doesn’t

Seriously just buy a Chromebook.

No, it is a motherboard made by Intel, at least the one I got:

https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/612/intel%20corporation_d...

And by the way, I just realised that my motherboard is certified to run on Windows 7, Redhat linux and Suse (Page 2 of the manual). And I did have problems with the audio on Fedora 39 using that motherboard.

The point is not that the user needs to keep purchasing hardware (a chromebook) until something it works, the point is that linux is doing a terrible job at working on hardware that people have, and that it is Linux certified!

Ahh ok, Q77 Express Chipset. Page I looked a listed it as a chipset.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel_DQ77MK

Your sound issues might not be caused by driver compatibility.

I asked in the Fedora forums, and I got not any help at all, just blaming me that I was giving them useless information (I did what I could, as I don't know which command to run to give the information).

They never got that far to diagnostic my issue, I did myself, and eventually decided that I don't want to deal which such a community every time I got a problem. I would rather see the Microsoft ads after each update. (Main reason to change)

I might sound quite snarky when talking about linux, but I keep reading all folks saying is ready, no problems, and they get very hostile when you tell them that not it isn't. I wish it was, I love KDE, I wish I could run KDE on top of windows.

but it isn't ready, and with any problem that happens you are on your own.

The last thing I would need to test is to pay for a supported linux, and lets them deal with all the issues I got. But I also have the feeling that it will be as useless as any support from any other company that I had contacted. (Fine for simple stuff, useless for more complex issues).

By the way, if you have any ideas where to look for my sound issues, I will take notes on my Joplin for the future. :)

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