I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement.
There's always something.
I've spent the last 25 years using linux and seeing this statement.
There's always something.
It's not fair to say "there's always something" in a sarcastic tone, when there legitimately has always been something holding people back. Especially on laptops.
Is it easier than ever to use? Definitely. Does it support a significant chunk of hardware these days? Yup. Are there actual proprietary/commercial pieces of software on it? Yeah. Does it game now? Sure does. Are there still reasons people might not be able to use it? Definitely.
In discussions between people who don't use linux, their notions of what the pain points even are seem to lag by sometimes over a decade
I find myself equally ill-informed on the pitfalls of windows ecosystems of late, except the ones that make the news for how insane they sound, but in my defense I also don't go around claiming I intermittently try to use it but just can't make the jump
As microsoft continues to tighten the screws, I just hope all these reluctant users can get out before it's too late
- gaming: Windows with a sprinkle of Steam Deck (yay!)
- compute: Linux
- video decode: Windows (DRM on Linux... yeah)
- video encode: mixed (Windows for consumers and smbs, Linux for cloud transcode)
Of these, the Steam Deck is the closest to a laptop that we got to. This is actually great, but it didn't result in a noticeable shift in anything, because LLMs took it all.
-The vast overwhelming majority of games are now effectively cross-platform. Work done mostly by valve benefits the entire ecosystem of linux-based OSes, and the sliver of incompatible games that still exist take vast resources to prevent from being made compatible, and thus can only be pulled off by well-resourced studios, most of whom Microsoft either has a deep relationship with or has bought.
-I'm glad we at least agree that computers running linux can be used for doing computation, as is true of any computer I would hope
-Most video decoding is effectively done on browsers, which are, with the exception of the garbage ones OS vendors keep trying to lock users into despite this being deeply unpopular, run on every platform. DRM is supported by most browsers with some opt-out consent options, and remaining incompatibility with streaming platforms is largely driven by those platforms being able to detect what operating system you're on and specifically trying to prevent playback on that basis. There is no popular codec I am aware of that isn't supported by FFMPEG, let alone by any free software whatsoever
-At this point are you just talking about platform adoption? People can encode stuff on whatever system they want. The only market forces are increasingly futile efforts to enforce platform control on the part of content aggregating corporations
-Is the thing about laptops referring to the fact that laptops are, through corporate deals, mostly sold with windows as a default operating system on them? There are now several whole OEMs that don't, but the last time I encountered a laptop for which a routine and standard linux install process ran into any issue whatsoever was like 2012, and it felt like a weird edge case then. Maybe I would have if I used fingerprint scanners or some other creepy spyware nonsense? I'm not even looking up laptops before I buy them. One time I had a boss who just bought the most expensive thing he could find at best buy on short notice. I heard it was kinda hard to get new Apple silicon models up and running for a while? For the most part, computers are just computers. It's weird that so much marketing pretends otherwise. The market for GPUs in laptops by and large does not care what operating system they are running, because people are buying the hardware for any of a number of general purposes for which one might use a general purpose computer. If you've done any statistical analysis to support these claims of "market forces", are you sure you're not claiming every laptop sold with windows installed by default in your models, despite that everyone running linux on a laptop also has to buy the laptop, but will probably only boot up windows if it forces them to by trying to prevent people from booting into a BIOS menu, and then only to do that?
This kind of fuckery will also affect statistics for things like counting browser agents, because every time Netflix does some fuckery to try to gate high-quality streams by OS, someone will write a script or a plugin to spoof the agent of another OS to get around it
I find it pretty futile to try to understand "market forces" in any sort of factual sense, because the metrics are nebulous, easy to manipulate, and everyone involved has lots of incentives to lie about all of them. But I still don't have any clue what this has to do with whether drivers work, since most people on every operating system just use the same stupid blob of drivers nvidia dutifully provides every platform for every GPU they make, as they have for the last 10 of the roughly 15 years I've had any reason to care about GPU drivers
That's true (and Proton often works better than a native Linux build), but then there's the few games only run on Windows, often due to anti-cheat (see https://areweanticheatyet.com/). Unfortunately, a lot of developers aren't very interested in making it compatible even when it's definitely possible and not something they're opposed to, e.g. that list shows SMITE as compatible, but Paladins from the same company with the same anti-cheat as incompatible. Almost no games are Linux-only, many are Windows-only.
VR can also be a big headache, although I made it worse by getting WMR. Monado is getting there though.
I play another game that has EAC anti cheat and twice it stopped working after an update simply due to the URL for the new Linux client was wrong. Thankfully Devs fixed it after 1week.
This is just my issue, I am pretty sure, there are other loads of drivers issues elsewhere.
MacOS doesn’t work on most machines either, but drivers aren’t an issue for Mac users.
I would hope that you consider that dismissive replies like this do little to encourage anyone to adopt linux, and instead make the community seem elitist and off putting.
You can easily check if the motherboard has issues, but this idea you should install on random hardware is a mistake.
Linux is not MacOS, but the best time to swap is when you get new hardware. Run into issues and the old Desktop/Laptop still works and there is no need to stress.
Why, it works on windows? And it's not 'random hardware' its the hardware they have and use. You should realize this is a failure of linux, not of the user.
So? Linux is not Windows.
It’s the advice that’s a problem not the user or Linux.
Which suggests the question is isn’t if it’s ready but if you’re going to be happy with it.
However, can I know what is that easy way to check if every single chip of a motherboard will be compatible with linux?
I am honestly asking, because I have not found anything to check hardware.
the same way, if I want to make a computer formed with parts from a store, (not a prebuilt) how can I check all pieces to make sure that it will be compatible?
Thank you.
Whilst it is true that I did not check compatibility of my system. If I had, and would have bought that motherboard based on the website, I would still have the same problem.
Linux is not yet ready. the attitude of the community to say, it is the user problem, does not help to get it ready either.
Seriously just buy a Chromebook.
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/612/intel%20corporation_d...
And by the way, I just realised that my motherboard is certified to run on Windows 7, Redhat linux and Suse (Page 2 of the manual). And I did have problems with the audio on Fedora 39 using that motherboard.
The point is not that the user needs to keep purchasing hardware (a chromebook) until something it works, the point is that linux is doing a terrible job at working on hardware that people have, and that it is Linux certified!
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel_DQ77MK
Your sound issues might not be caused by driver compatibility.
They never got that far to diagnostic my issue, I did myself, and eventually decided that I don't want to deal which such a community every time I got a problem. I would rather see the Microsoft ads after each update. (Main reason to change)
I might sound quite snarky when talking about linux, but I keep reading all folks saying is ready, no problems, and they get very hostile when you tell them that not it isn't. I wish it was, I love KDE, I wish I could run KDE on top of windows.
but it isn't ready, and with any problem that happens you are on your own.
The last thing I would need to test is to pay for a supported linux, and lets them deal with all the issues I got. But I also have the feeling that it will be as useless as any support from any other company that I had contacted. (Fine for simple stuff, useless for more complex issues).
By the way, if you have any ideas where to look for my sound issues, I will take notes on my Joplin for the future. :)
On the other hand I'm sat next to someone really struggling with getting a windows machine to talk to a network at the moment, half an hour of "General failure"s, then eventually they got it working but the system clock was months out
So much more complex than linux it's crazy. Windows will never be ready for prime time until you can literally plug in and load a webpage like you can with a linux box.
"there is always something that holds you... which is actually not that vital in the end once you lose it"
Like ggp here didn't mention why he thinks ThrottleStop and MSI Afterburner are a must for him but but I doubt that they are truly irreplacable. More likely they provide some non-essential utility which would make this more about tradeoffs, or about just taking the plunge to feel the grass on the other side of the fence with your own feet.
If Cubase ran on linux (and all my current plugins could work), then I'd drop it in a heartbeat. I've been running Linux in various guises and roles since (I think) 1998, but it's never made it to the 'daily use, I can do everything in it' stage, despite quite a few attempts on my part to make it happen.
> and all my current plugins could work
holds the key, there are an immense amount of plugins that are PC-only, as I'm sure you're aware. The list of mac-only plugins is pretty tiny.
I've got an M1 max macbook Pro as I've used macbooks for a few years now and despite trying Windows-based laptops out, I've not found any where the keyboard, trackpad, build quality and screen match up to a mac, and I (for the most part) like macOS more than Windows.
As for some other replies about plug-ins and instruments, I used to find that Windows was far more popular and available, but now nearly everything I've bought is available cross platform, so it's nowhere near the issue it used to be.
Bother. You do seem to be stuck for now.
Using KDE Plasma 6.
Or do we specifically mean a context-filled context menu, such as the ones used in the file managers? If so, Dolphin definitely performs better than Windows Explorer, but that's a pretty useless micro-benchmark. The thumbnail and live preview processes are far more processor intensive/laggy in Dolphin/KDE, does that mean KDE is overall worse? No.
https://superuser.com/questions/1674122/how-can-i-revert-to-...