New telescope images of Jupiter's moon Io rival those from spacecraft
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Stitched spacecraft photo: https://science.nasa.gov/resource/high-resolution-global-vie...
This seems awesome but I would say 'rival those' is a bit of a stretch
We don't know what we won't see until we don't see it.
Also, without knowing details, I suspect you can improve the LBT images as the system matures, but as you say, probably not at the resolution the satellite provides.
So, while the resolution may be great eye-candy, the consistency of the data over time is vastly different. "Higher resolution" does not always mean "better science", especially if its a one-shot compared to thousands of data-samples...
It seems like this critical detail was left out of the headline.
Also, a huge shame the Overwhelmingly Large Telescope was cancelled. We need more creative names for those.
Unfortunately, nothing can remove the temperature of the atmosphere (which affects infrared imaging), or the absorption of many wavelength bands.
10-100 times cheaper. An LBT night is around $50k-100k, which over 10 years corresponds to $300 millions. JWST total budget is about $10 billions.
True, JWST can operate close to 24/7. On the other hand, land-based telescopes are under constant refurbishment and upgrades, and they become more powerful over time.
“Jupiter moon Io, imaged by SHARK-VIS on Jan. 10, 2024. This is the highest resolution image of Io ever obtained by an Earth-based telescope”
From the post(s) below It's impressive but its definitely lower res.
Over the life of managing telescopes, is it actually cheaper than a craft in orbit?
It's very exciting to be a (small) part of this, happy to answer any camera software questions (can't speak for the observatory's software though as I haven't seen it)
[0] https://sites.google.com/inaf.it/shark-vis/instrument/detect...
Correct, it depends on the observation. Both sides have adaptive optics correction, but they work independently. This particular instrument (SHARK-VIS) is mounted on the "right" side, while SHARK-NIR is on the "left" side.
Are the cameras similar to what's in a consumer digital camera, that is, a single image sensor behind a bayer filer and a lens? Or does it use some other configuration, like an array of image sensors?
And does sensor readout work similarly to a consumer camera, sequentially reading out rows of sensor data? Is there any cool software processing during the capture, like decovolution?
Yes they're quite similar to consumer camera sensors, our sensors are usually from high quality production bins. We advertise this quality as "scientific CMOS" (sCMOS) to help highlight this. Consumer sensors can have a significant number of sensor defects which can be corrected so they aren't noticeable in casual photographs, but these defects are very detrimental for scientific imaging where quality is paramount. Another big difference is the noise and quantum efficiency characteristics of the sensor which is another key requirement for scientific instruments.
We don't supply lens', I think the logic is that scientific customer's know exactly what kind of optical setup they want so most customer's would tend to use their own optical equipment or buy it in.
Our camera's are monochrome (scientific cameras tend to care more about raw resolution than having a smaller res with bayer layer) so customers typically use different color/wavelength filters to get what they want and process them into true color images later if needed.
> Or does it use some other configuration, like an array of image sensors?
This particular camera, the Zyla has just one sensor. Though it is a little unique in our portfolio, in that the sensor can be read out from both halves simultaneously in various patterns. If your interested in the hardware we provide lots of info in our hardware manual: https://andor.oxinst.com/downloads/uploads/Zyla_hardware_use... I don't think we offer multi-sensor solutions, though I could be wrong.
> And does sensor readout work similarly to a consumer camera, sequentially reading out rows of sensor data?
Yes, there are two electronic shuttering modes we offer: rolling and global. Rolling takes a sequential row by row readout, and global does a readout of the entire sensor. The camera's used by the observator can only do rolling, but we have other Zyla models which also do global. There can be tradeoffs in choosing which one to use, typically framerate, noise and image distortion are the key factors in choosing. Global is available on some high end consumer cameras, but generally most consumer sensors will do rolling. Though this may have changed since I last looked.
> Is there any cool software processing during the capture, like decovolution?
In the camera side of the company, we try to leave the image as clean and raw as possible. We perform correction processing during acquisition on the camera; as high quality as the bins are, you still have to correct and characterize for various things to get the best performance in a scientific scenario.
In the applications side of the company we do all kinds of image processing: deconvolution (this is a big deal in the confocal microscopy world, we have our own patented deconvolution method: srrf-stream) https://fusion-benchtop-software-guide.scrollhelp.site/fusio..., AI analysis, 3d/4d imaging (https://imaris.oxinst.com/). Probably lots more I don't know about (I'm on the camera side).
Or try: https://andor.oxinst.com/learning/view/article/introduction-...
Adaptive optics in particular requires very fast framerates and low latency to make rapid adjustments to the mirror's shape to compensate for the constantly changing atmosphere. It's really amazing that it's possible at all! I believe this is the method used here, though I can't say with certainty.
Lucky imaging is more akin to a brute force method, where you acquire lots and lots of images quickly and process the best ones when the atmosphere was being particularly cooperative at the time and not distorting the image very much.
Again, there are lots of experts out there on the topic, this is just my simple view into it.
When light passes through the atmosphere, it undergoes a convolution known as a point spread function (think of it as convolving the signal with a 2D gaussian that spreads the intensity out to neighboring pixels). If we know that PSF specific details, we can deconvolve the image, either computationally, or by modifying the mirror in real time.
From my understanding, you can project a laser into the atmosphere, where it gets affected by the PSF. When you look at that laser projection, you can find the PSF (because you know the input shape of the laser, and what it looks like after being affected by the PSF), and therefore use that in real time to deconvolve the astronomic images you are collecting.
This process can be done so quickly it can adapt to immediate changes in the atmosphere (turbulence). "Enhance" is definitely a thing- it's widely used in both telescopes and microscopes (and if you had the right priors for a blurry photo, you could do it there too).
I think this is a relatively simple read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_guide_star along with https://www.llnl.gov/article/44936/guide-star-leads-sharper-...
Io Diameter 2263.8 miles
Jupiter Distance to Earth 444000000 miles
Perp / Base 0.000005098648649
Radians 0.000005098648649
Degrees 0.0002922792219
Arc Seconds 1.052205199
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Moon Diameter 2159.1 miles
Moon Distance to Earth 238900 miles
Perp / Base 0.009037672666
Radians 0.009037426614
Degrees 0.5180690416
Arc Seconds 1865.04855
The idea being that they have high-res reference photos that are a one-shot deal but can take regular earth-based ones auto-enhance them from now on.
It could then show changes over time in high res?
I'm showing my limitations here, obviously, but I know what I mean... it makes sense in my head :)
Even if you trained the model against the most detailed images available. That data was a mere snapshot of the exact time it was taken which in some cases is decades old. If things are actually changing on these bodies, then using that stale data to update current images would actually be damaging to science as it would be attempting to make the current look like the old. No! We need to see what it looks like now for the comparisons.
Enhance! It can only go so far. Otherwise, you're just a low-rent Hollywood SFX team generating new worlds for whatever space opera you weren't hired to work on.
These new Io images are in the visible spectrum, so it might be more apt to compare it to Hubble.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/07/27/james-webb-space-telesc...
Avg distance to earth ~628m km
Apparent diameter is ~5 microradians or ~1 arcsecond
Similar to imaging a marble 5mm in diameter from 1km away.
Betelgeuse is ~1.2 billion km in diameter (for now, lol)
It's 642 light years away.
It's apparent diameter is .2 microradians, or approximately a red blood cell from 35m away.
Space is big. Things are small.
(you'll probably have to convert it to cash though before) https://www.lbto.org/lbt-access/