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Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down and open sourced everything

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BTW, this is the actual oldest server (and it's still up): https://minecraftonline.com/

This is a close contender (it's is also up, and really thriving; it's even on close to the latest version): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2b2t

I can recommend 2b2t if you don't mind the 4chan-like mentality in the chat. Probably the only server where coding is actually a desired, core skill in factions/teams/groups.

While yes 2b2t is on a modern version most of its history was spent on 1.12. Only last year did they jump to 1.9 and only in the last few months to 1.20. Not knocking it, just most of the old builds and metas were based on 1.12.

Is 1.12 not more modern than 1.9?

I think they dropped a 1, i.e. they meant to type 1.19

He means 1.19

Yes, meant 1.19.

Do you mean 1.19?

Some recent examples of coding exploits for 2b2t:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40067857

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29615428

I don't think that server is German though? Headline at this moment in time is "Oldest largest German Minecraft server shut down..."

I saw this and thought it was MinecraftOnline that shutdown. MCO has a great community, and is pretty much the anti-2b2t. MCO is also German.

They really are the Yin and Yang of Minecraft.

Indeed, MCO has a special place in my heart.

Minecraft was the first game, someone on the "internet" gifted me. I was like "Why do you do that?!" and he was just like, because it's cool to play with you.

Ahhhh! Fond memories. :)

Minecraft was the first game I made long term friends from the internet in. I went on to play other games with my friends from minecraft for years. My first real relationship was with someone I met on Minecraft. I flew across the US to visit her multiple times in high school (working as a dishwasher to buy tickets). 7 years later I bought her and her child plane tickets to visit me (earlier this year).

Also Minecraft got me into programming in Java, which let to my programming career. So yeah... Minecraft has been a pretty big part of my life, even if I mostly stopped playing it in early high school :P

Actually that is an heartwarming story and a great example how games (and gaming) can connect people and how it can inspire careers!

Thank you for sharing!

Minecraft is also how I got into programming! Hundreds of hours spent writing Java plugins for CraftBukkit/Spigot :)

That’s a great story! Kudos good human!

I sent $20 via USPS to a friend with a credit card who purchased it on my behalf. Good times.

Actually that's pretty awesome to have someone trustworthy to do such things!

gosh, thats a beautiful little story.

Thank you! It was really an awesome time way back and made me aware that, gifting other people games is a nice thing to do.

I had 20 bucks and only 20 bucks. I could buy Minecraft alpha or bitcoin. I chose Minecraft. Whoops.

But still, neat game all around.

Never forget logging into mau5ville (deadmau5's server) and being blown away by the digital architecture and activity. Great times.

MuxCraft used to be one of the largest EU servers back in 2012-2014

Proof: https://web.archive.org/web/20140829145028/minecraft-serverl...

Would not go as far to say "one of the largest EU servers", maybe one of the largest German servers

Germany does have the biggest EU user base, but you’re right, the language was german

Fuck those pay2win servers, they are exploitative, promote gambling and pray on children.

Yup. Folks like to bring up Roblox (rightfully) with regards to gambling and hosting shady real $money shops for in game items but AFAIK (public) Minecraft servers have been doing this since at least 2012. "Pay $20 for a 'rank' on our server! You get extra goodies!". "This special diamond sword is only $1!".

Really an under reported stat imo. These servers are under the radar.

MuxCraft did not have any gambling until 2020, where it was already in serious decline like most older german servers

They added gambling as what seemed a last ditch effort to attract new users

I do agree that it is lame.

However, money sinks like gambling can be seen as a part of the in-game economy and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation.

I don’t necessarily have a problem with judicious use of it, but if the point of the server becomes buying in-game currency to lose it at the poker table, then yeah, that’s exploiting your users.

> and are a useful tool to take money out of circulation

What does this mean? What money is being taken out of circulation?

I assume the money going into their pocket, 10/10 thieves (winners) recommend theft (winning)

That's totally hyperbole. Perhaps they find themselves luckier than average - like most :) People overestimate this fairly easily/often.

It's vague... Counter point: opportunity cost. Nobody can say what will/won't happen, why even try to guess at this.

Most endeavors don't go as poorly as gambling. In my experience at least

If they talk about in-game currency, probably they mean mudflation. It's like inflation, but in games. If you can produce in-game currency out of nothing, the value drops.

Oh - I see. In-game currency is taken out of circulation.

Yes, this was what I was trying to describe.

Minecraft was the first game to get me fired.

Don't play it on a banks computer. Nor visit WikiLeaks for that matter on a banks computer.

Nor changed printer status messages via Telnet to "Out Of Ink - Please insert more blood"

Or even make acknowledgment that was you.

I was 17, how I miss that age and getting away with things.

https://muxcraft.eu/

Their website with the announcement also links to the following:

> Alle Dateien vom MuxCraft Server.

> Enthält: Maps, Schematics, Server & Plugins, Bilder, Designs, Website.

https://archive.org/details/muxcraft

Not sure if it’s the same, or some extra data, compared to what they put on the linked GitHub

These servers were a lot of fun. You got to pay taxes _in a game_! But seriously they were a lot of fun.

Btw, how is Levers and Chests coming along?

Anyone know what is Blood Bending?

I'm only aware of it in the context of Avatar The Last Airbender. I'd assume this is a gameplay mechanic based on that?

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Bloodbending

Is there a license? If not, then it's just source-available, not open-source.

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