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I don't know what you are talking about specifically, but per your other comment, all of that sounds like "morally justified" "civilized methods".

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I'm talking about threatening nukes for helping the victim to defend. Denying existence of nation and its state. Russian TV debates with Solovyov. Religious leaders sanctioning military aggression.

None of that is civilized, but however, that is not the end of it. Covert operations blowing up arm depots in other countries. Financing anti-system helpers and being successful in finding traitors who sell classified information. Russian government having ambitions in toppling post-Cold War status quo in Europe. All this induces massive militarization in Europe, which will get stronger as Russia comes closer.

>for helping the victim to defend

I don't understand you. Russia was finally helping the victims -- DNR and LNR -- to defend themselves. And the West is helping the bully to regain its power over victims.

The European Court of Human Rights has determined that there were no such things as DNR and LNR; they were a Russian military ruse from the get-go to justify the invasion of Ukraine.

Any European court is hardly impartial given that the West stands behind the new nationalistic Ukrainian government.

Facts are facts. Russian representatives were given an opportunity to demonstrate how LNR and DNR were domestic separatists and not members of Russian military, and they completely failed to do so. The facts against them were overwhelming.

As to the ECHR itself, it is one of the most respected courts on the planet.

In a country where the courts themselves are corrupt. See the 6 part Dutch documentary called “De Villamoord” wherein 9 innocent people were framed and jailed. One committed suicide. At the end of every episode they post the names of the two responsible people. One of which was the former head of the organised crime unit in Arnhem. Now she is the president of the court of Maastricht. And it’s not the only time she had perverted the course of justice.

One guy wrote a book about it. Within days the book was pulled from the shelves and he was fined 17,000 euros. Now he won’t talk about it with anyone.

And in the Netherlands it’s written into law that all government officials can lie under oath without fear of being prosecuted for perjury (New addition around 2020, the law itself said anyone in a profession that has an obligation to secrecy, which is all of Dutch government these days. The real reason for the law). Yes that’s right, and I have a letter from the attorney general stating explicitly that perjury doesn’t apply to prosecutors.

Yep! Really the courts here are highly respected.

Just unreasonably. Do some research.

Russia was not in any recognized position to help militarily any hypothetical political group in Ukraine. Ukraine was not in war with any other group than Russia. Remember, money and propaganda are a fair game, weapons to helpers and invasion are not.

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