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With enough of these submission titles lacking any kind of useful description, HN is just going to be a random click-lottery.

No one seems to care though and it's becoming increasingly frequent, maybe I'm in the wrong place.

Yes. Stupidest rule on HN.

If you're curious about how the page was put together, or peeved it didn't load on your phone, check out this article describing how the author made it: https://tympanus.net/codrops/2024/04/08/case-study-84-24/

I gotta say this is one of the best ever position sticky, scroll animation fests I have ever browsed. It was smooth the whole time, and handled window resize by basically saying 'fu' to the user I'm going to start from the beginning. However, saying all this, I think it's a pretty terrible form for giving importance to the content. It just continually distracts from the words on the page, and I end up just playing with the scroll toy instead of caring about what the article is about. Maybe sour grapes, because I struggled with similar web projects in the past. So I have true admiration for the makers of this but I feel like it turns the page from some article about the macintosh to a cool scroll experience.

Very mean webpage, you are forbidden from reading the article if you use side-by-side browser windows on 1920x1080.

On another note, the Mac having only 128K of RAM was somewhat balanced out by having much of the operating system code (QuickDraw, etc) live in ROM instead.

Without JS, it does not show any content at all, but once you disable CSS as well, the contents show up.

Yep, this is ridiculous: https://0x0.st/XqoY.png

Wait which language is that? I am curious

Just a silly font, it’s a work in progress. Mostly for fun though it does grant some privacy at coffee shops.

Cool page. There is quite a bit of aliasing on the wireframe. Three.js simply uses the anti-aliasing setting from the getContext call for webgl. The default here will be 4 samples [1].

I think it would have been best to do a custom super sampling for the wireframe model.

[1] https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:thi...

Maybe this was the intent, since the original Mac did not do anti-aliasing?

There is still anti-aliasing its just with so much periodic wireframe you still see edges and patterns.

This was pretty fascinating. I actually still have my 128K Mac, as well as an Apple sweatshirt, that my dad bought for me in 1985. I lugged that sucker around university. Last I looked (about 8 years ago) it had some kind of boot error, not sure if it's the same one as Giogi's. Now I'm tempted to unearth it and revisit.

Replace the rifa cap, clean the floppy heads with isopropyl, lube the floppy rails with lithium grease, and it should last another 40 years.

Loaded this in a 9:16 aspect ratio window and got a blank page showing '55' in the centre. Which is not the result of 84-24.

I was wondering this same thing... It's just off by 5, but still... Must be written in JavaScript

A design so cool and principled nobody talks or cares about the content.

I have read through the whole site except the color restoration section. Unfortunately, I am still missing the meaning of this “84-24”. Anyone care to eli5 please?

The macintosh was released in 1984 and the year is now 2024.

$Deity, bless browser reader modes. They make our life less miserable. Amen.

Also, it seems that we have to say goodbye to some basic browser features, like "Print". Nobody cares about the printing stylesheet anymore.

The page shows up completely broken on an iPad. It's partly clipped, doesn't scroll, etc.

Nice. He didn't say which vintage electronics store in Tucson, but there is a good chance it's Elliott Electronics... an electronics store with big surplus (tools/aviation/machinery/everythingelse) store under the same roof.

Deliberately wasting your time on mobile, taking 10 seconds before telling you to view on desktop. Doesn't even respect desktop mode. Hard down vote. Very unpleasant experience.

Right now, someone else has that number.

one more time!

I hate when elitist jerks decide my greater than 1080p phone display is somehow inadequate for showing their grand artistic vision and I'm not allowed to look at their photos of an old Mac unless I do so exactly the way they want me to.

I get not wanting to redesign everything for portrait mode, but a simple "This page was mainly designed with desktops in mind, please turn your phone to landscape" would've done the trick just as well.

Phone people don't read, that's nonsense. Just put a series of next and I Agree buttons that does it for them.

or my portrait mode desktop system. Especially when "view source" shows all of the content got downloaded, it's just refusing to render. Get over it, scroll bars exist.

lol 36 and midlife crisis.

Waiting for like 8 seconds for a website to load, only for it to tell me it’s “old school” and can’t handle my phone was kind of hilarious.

Does it work with lynx?

Unfortunately I have no clue. I’m running Mosaic.

It does indeed, and as a matter of fact that seems to be the only way I can view it on my phone.

That's... That's something. I can't tell if the fact that you had to do that is exceptionally modern or exceptionally old school.

I had the same thing. Tested on desktop for others in the game boat: its a story about repairing an old macintosh. Some pretty nice scrolling effects.

Maybe it's just me, but I find the scrolling effects obnoxious and floaty. Like I never quite have control over what element I'm scrolling. Just imprecise enough to make it annoying af.

Struggled pretty badly on my pc too.

Maybe it's a reference to the old school modem speeds back when you could take a few sips from your cup of coffee while watching a website load and build up.

This is why mobile browsers need genuine user agent control, not just some crappy "pwetty pwease give me the desktop version mistuh servuh" checkbox.

Firefox mobile does (with add-ons).

On Android only I think?

Unfortunately it does nothing for the View Window and sites still detect mobile.

Worked well on my Pixel tablet running GrapheneOS and Fennec in landscape mode. Smooth and fast.

The website is soo cool!!!!

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