Majority of Americans wrongly believe US is in recession – and most blame Biden
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They’re measuring economic productivity based on the horse trading of exponentially increasing asset prices, while ignoring that people are renting more, living in worse accommodations, having less access to transport, and are eating a worse diet. Just because a small percentage of the population is getting rich on paper doesn’t mean the majority will be persuaded that their economic situation isn’t in free fall.
The only time in my life the average person thought the economy was good was the peak of the dot com bubble.
Since then the average person either thinks the economy is bad and we are about to go into a recession if they don't think we are already in one, or we actually are in a recession.
It is the problem of the marginal utility of a dollar when the society is already so far out on this logarithmic curve.
This. All of my friends are blue collar workers. It's been getting tougher for them year after year. It's been difficult to watch at times.
The ones who have gone to work for themselves fare better, but it hasn't gotten any easier for those grinding it out on an hourly wage.
Simpler explanation - people derive their model of the world from the news, and the news is slanted heavily towards economic negativity. For roughly a year in 2023 exceptionally strong unemployment reports were reported as "bad" because they caused the markets to decline because investors want lower rates. People see layoffs in the news, despite the fact that big tech has a fraction of total employment even in the information sector.
If you are going to let the NEBR have the final say, then you can never know whether you are currently in a recession because the NEBR does not those calls until revised data comes in, which takes a long time.
So the Guardian, by its definition of recession, can not know whether Americans are right or wrong about whether the US is in recession (I don't share their definition, there is no official definition of a recession in the US, although the NBER is a highly respected private organization).
In past recessions, most mainstream economists have denied that there was a recession when one was in fact beginning.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEFAINUSA672N
Majority of Americans feel the inflation squeeze.
The top percentile who own assets and businesses are getting a massive boost.
My wallet - and the Dow around 40k - is saying four more years.
I’m glad to have a job. Lots of layoffs in tech industry.
Housing is more unaffordable than it has possibly ever been. Grocery prices have skyrocketed. Several of the big jobs reports were actually all part time or government jobs. Full time private employment was flat or down.
What exactly does this mean, everything I'm seeing is very positive. I can look at my stock portfolio, my W2, and read the unemployment reports to understand we're basically at full employment. We haven't had this long of a period of sub-4% unemployment in 50 years. We're producing more oil and gas domestically than any time in American history, and the prime age labor force participation rate is as high as it was during the dot-com peak.
If anything I'm feeling gaslit by the people constantly parroting economic doom because Cheerios cost $5 instead of $3. Please, gain some perspective.
> > Whatever numbers the government is publishing do not reflect the experiences of the citizens.
Yes, they do. How do you think they collect this data? What kind of alternate reality are you living in?
I'm seeing more air travel this month than in the history of aviation. This isn't something that happens in a bad economy.
I vividly remember the Fed refusing to acknowledge a recession until total melt down of the major banks.
but wait that 4% is on top of the 10%,
the thing that matters is whether the income went up 10% before hitting the 4% inflation, only then would the 4% be a positive number.
the inflation does indeed slow when people run out of money, but that's not going to make put them in good mood
Q4 2019: 362
Q1 2020: 367
Q1 2024: 365The existential dread is all about how it's worse than it's ever been before, not about how wage growth has been a little soft for a few years.
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> The vast majority of respondents, 72%, indicated they think inflation is increasing. In reality, the rate of inflation has fallen sharply from its post-Covid peak of 9.1% and has been fluctuating between 3% and 4% a year.
Inflation is increasing the depreciation of the dollar at a rate between 3% and 4% per year. Silly public having no idea that inflation is actually the first derivative of that.
And yeah, inflation being ~3% is basically the average over the last few decades. It's not apocalyptic.
Of course layoffs weren’t traumatic for you.