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you might want to give Zellij a try. (https://zellij.dev/) Works like tmux but with the UI friendliness of more modern apps.

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Okay, just going through the first tutorial[0], I am convinced that Zellij is truly something else. I've never opened up my wallet[1] so quickly for any open-source project, but here the author is clearly creating something amazing (and maintaining awesome documentation and tutorials!). Thank you a lot for this recommendation :D

BTW this is the first time I've seen a working drag and drop TUI (you can use drag-and-drop to move floating panes around).

[0] https://zellij.dev/tutorials/basic-functionality/ [1] https://github.com/sponsors/imsnif

Maybe it's because I don't use it that intensely, but I've found the default a bit noisy, so I switched my default layout to only contain `pane` and turned pane frames off.

TurboVision from the 1980s or 1990s has draggable and overlappable windows inside a single shell/DOS screen.

https://tvision.sourceforge.net/tvQNX-pterm-photon.jpg

Yes but that's just writing to the vram directly, just as keyboard and mouse are read directly. Not the madness of going through heaps and loads of batshit crazy terminal extensions, escape codes and decades of cruft and hacks piled upon the tty.

That's not correct. Tvision has worked in terminals for almost as long as terminals have existed.

https://github.com/magiblot/tvision

Reminds me a bit of twin: https://github.com/cosmos72/twin

I found out about it from this blog post nearly two decades ago: http://web.archive.org/web/20190120170204/http://www.termina...

Unfortunately zellij doesn't implement job control properly, so running certain daemons or other things that use process groups are very broken.

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