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i do prefer kitty[0] if i want a modern terminal emulator

[0] https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty

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Me too. Nothing beats the "CTRL + SHIFT + G" option (open last output in less); no other terminal has it.

I didn't even know about that and I've been using kitty for years

try kitty-scrollback as well https://github.com/mikesmithgh/kitty-scrollback.nvim for scrolling back via neovim...

iTerm2: cmd+shift+a = select output of last command. I can then cmd+c, open whatever editor I want (or `pbpaste | less` if I want `less`).

TIL, thanks.

It always appears greyed out for me, Hotkey Window and default profile as well. Any idea why might it be? Thanks!

You haven't installed the shell integration, likely. https://iterm2.com/documentation-shell-integration.html

I wrote something similar on top of TMUX and zsh. I use zsh hooks to dump the current TMUX pane to a file (/tmp/lastcmd) just before a new prompt is displayed; I also set variables $O1, $O2, ... to respective output lines. It never occurred to me to bind `less /tmp/lastcmd` to a key, though - good idea :)

(BTW: the problematic part was to make it fast enough not to be noticeable. The code that dumps the pane contents and searches for the start of the last output is written in Nim, in effect.)

It was possible in TMUX because it gives you programmatic access to the pane's content. It's probably possible to do the same with some terminals - urxvt uses Perl as an extension language, for example - but TMUX provides a compatibility layer, which means I don't need to rewrite the whole setup if I change the terminal emulator.

My understanding is that kitty has an automatic (opt-out) update feature [0][1]. I don't really like the idea of a terminal doing that.

However I like the fact that kitty developer(s) actively improved the state of the terminal emulation with their new keyboard and graphic protocols [2].

[0] https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/2481

[1] https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/pull/3544

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40378357

Nope, that's an update notification not an update. And its opt-in if you use kitty via a distribution package and opt-out if you use the standalone kitty binaries distributed by the developer. See https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/conf/#opt-kitty.update_check...

Funny, I always use the binaries distributed by the developers whenever I can thinking that the less intermediaries the better. Maybe I need to revise that position.

That's... quite a Windows mindset.

Malicious distro packagers are virtually unheard of, and another set of eyes on the software is generally better. For instance, if the developer sells out the packager can save your bacon. This is especially true on Android where selling out is more common (see: the Simple Apps situation and F-Droid) but also a valid consideration on desktop Linux.

I wouldn't assume anything about distro packages really. It's a higher bar in some systems (like Debian), lower in some (like nixpkgs), but the time investment to be in a position to sabotage something is quite low overall and requires little skill. Then there are not-distro packages that they easily abused over time. For example sourceforge was a respected distributor of software for a long time and they moved to adware installers.

I stick to official distro packages from distros I like, mainly Debian and OpenSUSE. Community packages are too sketchy for me, and I consider downloading packages from sourceforge/etc to be a Windowism. And while it's possible for a malicious entity to infiltrate the ranks of distro packagers, I think the threat of the developer selling out has proven to be more likely.

I certainly see Kitty is as a little crufty ("feature-packed" to some), but from my limited research it appears to be one of the fastest, so I can't really complain :-)

kitty is nice, but it has a problem with garbled unicode sequences (e.g. if you accidentally cat a binary file to standard output). It sometimes hangs up for a minute or two on seeing invalid unicode sequence. At least that was the case for several years, and so I switched to alacritty because it doesn't have this problem.

Nice, I like lightweight and modern terminal emulators. Just installed kitty and compared it in a sloppy way to foot [0] (by running `xxd /dev/urandom` side-by-side) and foot appears to be faster.

[0] https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot

kitty is written in Python, which instantly lowers the ceiling for performance by an order of magnitude. I discarded it as an option in the past: the most important requirement for me is the terminal cannot crash, and I can't trust a Python program to do that.

I like Kitty graphics protocol, but never used it. Didn't know Kitty was python, always assumed it was compiled due to the reported speed benefits. Maybe I'd benefit from switch to foot since my setup is mostly wayland nowadays, extra startup speed would be great. Foot seems to also have working terminal clipboard integration with `micro` too.

Much of kitty is written in C, particularly the (very fast) rendering pipeline.

Foot is really great. I often open terminals for executing single commands, so I appreciate its short startup time

Not to be confused with KiTTY, the (seemingly abandoned) Windows SSH client based on PuTTY.

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