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Shame the author immediately threw out grapheneos "because they purley focus on privacy", the user experience is much better than lineage these days.

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Graphene also has a way to sandbox Play Services, and may even allow Google Wallet using that, making it so that they don't have to dual boot.

'may'? Does it work or is it wonky?

Google wallet doesn't work, but you can still use a watch as an alternative. To my knowledge it's the only feature that doesn't function on GrapheneOS.

Could you elaborate on how the user experience is better?

One thing I wanted to mention after reading the article is that LineageOS has Google servers hard coded into the OS, while GrapheneOS gives you the option of using their servers instead. It also allows you to selectively turn on certain features that require Google code, such as e-sim cards.

LineageOS has their own implementation of gapps, which they have built into their sandbox system. I can choose to install Google services as a sandboxed app rather than a package that I have to flash to the OS at install time, as it is to my understanding you cannot flash gapps to an install that is not clean through implementations like microG.

> LineageOS has their own implementation of gapps

Really? Every installation I've seen with Lineage is to flash microG or MindTheGapps separately

I've used lineage for a few years now with only Magisk as an extra zip (no gapps) and I have not seen any google activity.

I think potatoball is talking about the connectivity checks

https://grapheneos.org/features#privacy-by-default

Also there are some GPS / location helper stuff that grafene proxies through its own servers by default, but you can switch to google's.

Perhaps I phrased it a bit badly but the developers say that they sandbox Google Play as they would for any other app installed on the device.

https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play

I unfortunately can’t speak to what they mean by sandboxed Google Play being ‘close to fully functional’ as I haven’t used it yet.

I’ve also been trying to replace notification push servers for msg notifications as those are usually routed through Google services. This article has a short explanation of what I’m referring to: https://medium.com/@KaushalVasava/push-notification-in-andro...

Like others have mentioned, I was also referring to the connectivity checks as well. GrapheneOS maintains some servers to provide the same service which the Google equivalents do, just without actually talking to Google.

Lineage OS does not have gapps by default. You can install your favourite gapps package and only install the Google apps you need.

also completely missed /e/OS-murena. based on lineage, de-googled and customized to be very user friendly. microg is available but optional.

if graphene or calyx don't fit, then /e/OS is really the best option from all the remaining alternatives.

GrapheneOS is better than LineageOS by every metric. It's basically flawless.

It has a very limited set of supported phones though, compared to LineageOS or /e/.

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