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at least on iOS you can permanently delete the music app (permanently meaning system updates won't restore it)

Wait, you can do that? Will that fix the play pause issue ? Thank you, this is wonderful. I never thought it was an Music app issue. I always it's just iOS pip being broken.

I had never experienced what the gp was experiencing and I can only guess it’s because I’ve had apple music uninstalled ever since they allowed that.

> ever since they allowed that

do you remember about when that was?

I want to say 5 years ago, my car is a 2018 and I know the U2 autoplay thing was an issue when I bought it, but I feel like within a year a new OS came out that allowed deleting default apps and that solved the U2 issue. And I guess saved me from experiencing the gp’s issue.

You can, but you may lose the ability to reliably play anything on your car over lightning. At least I do.

(I also have to have downloaded music... thankfully I got that U2 album ages ago, ha.)

Yes, I had that issue too (years ago, when they first allowed deleting the Music app). I think it might not be a problem in newer cars, but my car radio only had iPod support, not iPhone, and it seemingly needed at least one song in the music library for the connectivity to work at all.

I actually bought this 10 minute long silent song on iTunes at the time, so my phone wouldn’t automatically play Weezer’s “Across the Sea” every time I connected my phone to the car: https://music.apple.com/us/album/a-a-a-a-a-very-good-song-si...

I've never used anything other than bluetooth (in my ancient f150) so that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

I actually want the app though. Some music is not on Spotify that I have from iTunes music store back in the day. If you can believe it, several Black Sabbath albums aren't on Spotify.

This phenomenon is what is causing me to seriously contemplate returning to my own music collection. It's getting crazy

Ditto. And my Spotify library shows cracks more and more. I am a playlist curator by heart, did that with my 100GB MP3/FLAC Music collection for 20 years before switching to Spotify, but now and then you get an empty artist/track name entry and can't even see what song it was, due to the Song rights being lost.

Same. I've come to highly detest the empty artist/track name. Sometimes it's easy to figure out (such as a "discography" or "greatest hits" playlist where one album or some major-hit single disappears), but more and more often it's been pieces of a playlist I loved that is more and more wiped out. One of my favorite playlists has almost 30% of the songs as empty D-:

Well.. to be fair, those records aren't on any system anymore. It's a lawyer problem.

I was all the way on iTunes for its entire existence until several years ago. I just can't take its continuous nonsensical UI changes.

Now I recommend Plex. I use Prism player on my iPhone and I download my whole library from my MBP host. It's perfect.

That doesn’t help me as I use Apple Music to listen to music that isn’t on Spotify.

The play button defaulting to Apple Music even when another sound source has been used more recently is one of the few things I dislike about iPhones.

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