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Thousands More Teslas Are Piling Up in Parking Lots

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Tesla's issues are mounting up. Costs of totaling out, overall missing quality/realities of UX, and the lack of real infrastructure to support other buyers.

I'd love to be able to buy an EV. But my condo doesn't have charging ports, so realistically the best I can do is a PHEV for now.

It came up Friday (when it was asked, 'what would I buy if my hybrid was totaled tomorrow') as well as jokingly saturday (when my hybrid died thanks to poor QC on a previous recall software 'upgrade'... car worked fine before thank you...) but if I had to do it I'd still at most reach towards a Hornet PHEV.

Slightly tangential, but I recently saw this product... Seems to be a 2-way switch for charging your EV via your dryer outlet (assuming you have one of those)

https://splitvolt.com

(I am not affiliated with them)

The issue likely is the distance between where you park the car and where the condo is. Which is likely to be substantial since most condos do not have an attached garage.

They do sell NEMA extension cords too… but of course depends on your situation.

Going to be great when all these motors and batteries hit the parts market for closeout prices.

We often have several hundred of them arrive in one batch where we are (in Australia), then they get delivered to customers and the next batch arrives. Is this different?

Honestly doesn't seem too different from non-ev cars. Anyone that's lived anywhere near a car factory has seen thousands of them sitting in the huge parking lot before they get shipped out. Tesla doesn't have brick and mortar dealerships so the cars gotta sit somewhere.

Tesla has more than double the P/E of the rest of the industry so this had better be a logistics problem that means they are moving to a lot more sales and not just tapering demand.

Does ECON 101 logic apply here? If supplies of a good are piling up, it means the equilibrium price for that good is below the asking price.

Econ 201: the principal-agent problem [1]. Musk likely can’t concede prices while negotiating a multibillion-dollar pay package.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal%E2%80%93agent_prob...

I’m not sure which branch of Econ includes pissing off your core market by being a fascist leaning edgelord, but that applies too. In the US Republicans are solidifying their stance firmly against EVs and left leaning folks are tired of Musks’s tweets.

I wonder if there is an easy way to use the unsold cars' batteries to store energy until they are finally sold

Not likely in a way that's worthwile I'd wager. you'd need a lot of cabling (likely easy to pilfer yet valuable due to copper) and labor relative to savings.

Teslas, other than the Cybertruck, don't support bidirectional charging either.

Aren't the Teslas themselves a much more attractive and viable theft target? Once you've protected the parking lot from car thieves I doubt copper thieves are a major issue.

I started some envelope math expecting this to be silly but I think the capacity might actually be significant?

In the past six years grid battery storage capacity in California increased about 10,000 MW, or 100,000 Teslas (using a high approximation of .1 MW per Tesla). Tesla has around 50,000 Teslas in inventory worldwide.

Wouldn't that degrade their chemistry and lower their value?

No, because Musk can say that battery restoration technology is being worked on and will arrive any day now.

lol

https://archive.md/Os2tt

“Thousands of cars” is one day of production. Just a small hiccup with shipping (e.g.: Houthis) could cause this.

This feels like a hit piece by a short seller.

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