YMMV if you attempt the same traceroute from Bangalore or Sydney to London/Paris/NYC.
From my router in Dhaka pining a router on airtel in India, 36-38ms
Routers in the real would give very stable ping responses, no matter where they are based.
The last mile is usually the issue. Pretty much only Cogent and HE allow you to have packet loss
That’s meaningless. Control planes are often policed sure, but on overload will simply drop. In my experience they drop icmp to expired before echo response but most will generate ttl expired just fine.
Any router capable of processing a full bgp table, and to be honest any router made in the last 20 years, is perfectly capable of responding to icmp echos.
There was then a second argument that “3rd world” routers aren’t as good as ones in western country. In the majority of cases they’re exactly the same. That western arrogance is somewhere between insulting and amusing.
The final argument is about path loss/jitter/etc, specially loss on the first hop (your “my crappy 3G provider” argument)
That’s exactly what this test of starlink is showing.
Starlink is a great tool in specific cases, but the fanboyish ness often drowns out the actual benefits.
You be capping
That was a temporary situation though, and I think the worst I’ve seen in east Africa from the last 10 years.